14 Replies Latest reply: Jun 18, 2013 1:51 PM by vicfene RSS

    Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF

    vicfene

      Hi I am using a Trial version of Premier Pro CS6.  I tried some projects and results were excellent.  Now I trued a small project and ended up with a rendered sequence with properties 25.00i UFF.  This UFF is new, and as I used to use Vegas, I am still rendering to DVD on DVD Architect 5, which program crashes whenI import a UFF file.  With others no problem.  How can I eliminate this UFF thing?

        • 1. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
          Andrew_S Community Member

          UFF is Upper Field First.  SD recordings are generally Lower. Upper or Lower are characteristics of interlaced video, that's what the i means. DVDs can be either upper or lower fields first. If you want a LFF file, then you will have to put your HD sequence into a SD sequence and export from that.

          • 2. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
            J. Simon Community Member

            The results will not be pretty if the field order is changed. If the original footage is 25i UFF, then it should stay that way all the way to disk.  The best solution is to solve the crash in DVD Architect, or use a different authoring program, rather than alter the properties of the original media.

             

            Encore comes free with Premiere Pro and should take the footage without issue.

            • 3. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
              vicfene Community Member

              Thanks so much Andrew and Simon. Well first of all I used to use Vegas and am trying to see the possibility of switching to Premier Pro. I am using a trial version so cannot use Encore because it needs some sort of validation. Next, the original footage is from a Panasonic HS900 and the clips are M2Ts.  The thing is that I am experimenting a bit with fianl encoding, and managed to render 3 films well enough.  Suddenly when I am getting confident, so to say, I get this problem. I render to H264 1080i 25 frames, as I always did.  I have to use DVD Architect because I eused it before with no problem.  I understood that UFF means upper field first, and obviously there is no link to the crashes.   Anyway I will keep fiddling with some settings but honestly I do not know what changes I did. One thing I noticed is that sometimes when I render to above settings I get 3 files, one video, one audio and another file.  Is there a setting to get one single file? Thanks Thanks so much

              • 4. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                Andrew_S Community Member

                You don't say what the 3 files are. Usually there are two files for DVD encoding, m2v and ac3 (or wav). In these forums you will see this mentioned a lot. A single mpg file for DVD authoring is not recommended as the first thing the DVD program has to do is strip the mpg file apart into video and audio files, so it can recombine them in vob format. So better to start with the separate files, as things can get out of sync if you start with a single file. Its happened to me when I first started DVD burning many years ago.

                 

                When you export your sequence from Premiere via File > Export, you can select LFF in the video tab. Note Jim's comment though. Having said that, the process that I use for DVD export is, I drag the HD sequence (which is UFF) into a DV sequence (which is LFF), do the necessary re-scaling (1440 x 1080 to 720 x 576) and export from there. The end DVD is fine. No interlace or inter-field problems and yes I have checked it on a CRT monitor fed with a CVBS signal.

                • 5. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                  Ann Bens ACP/MVPs

                  The third file is metadata.

                  Even in DVD Architekt it is best to use two files, one for video and one for audio.

                  You can get one file; set the multiplexer on and you will get .mpg file.

                  • 6. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                    vicfene Community Member

                    Hi , after I almost lost hope, I restarted editing the film from the very

                    beginning. When I exported just 5 minutes work  to H264 I changed the

                    number of framed to 25, and everything was back to normal again.  It could

                    have been either that or else there was something funny in the edited part

                    I did, though I really cannot tell what.  I am not new to non linear work

                    as I used Vegas for the past years, but it seems I am getting hooked on

                    Premier.  Thanks so much for your help.

                    • 7. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                      J. Simon Community Member

                      I render to H264

                       

                      That's not the best option for DVD.  You'll want to use an MPEG2-DVD preset coming out of PP.  That will create the required files for authoring.

                      • 8. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                        vicfene Community Member

                        Whilst thanking you so much again can you please lead me a bit more.  I

                        author for Blu Ray and also same project to DVD.  So I work the captured HD

                        HD 1920 - 1080 clips in H264, then render to HD for Blu Ray ( am using H264

                        preset of PP).  Then I use the rendered film to author both Blu Ray and

                        DVD.  Naturally it will have to be reencoded but I got good results.  Where

                        am I going wrong? please?

                        • 9. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                          J. Simon Community Member

                          I didn't know you were creating BDs.

                          • 10. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                            vicfene Community Member

                            But it there anything wrong in my way of working please?

                            • 11. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                              Ann Bens ACP/MVPs

                              No but in your initial post there is no mention of BD just DVD hence Jims remark in regard to H.264.

                              DVD requires mpeg2-dvd files.

                              BD will give you m4v.

                              • 12. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                                vicfene Community Member

                                Please excuse.  I was really frustrated at that time.  Still thanks so very

                                very much for your help.

                                • 13. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                                  J. Simon Community Member

                                  But it there anything wrong in my way of working please?

                                   

                                  Not 'wrong', per se, but less than ideal for sure.  Your DVDs are being transcoded twice, once to the H.264 for BD use and again to MPEG2 for DVD use.  Ideally you'd create the DVD straight from the source media, rather than a lossy export.

                                   

                                  Export once as H.264 Blu-ray for BD authoring

                                  Export again as MPEG2-DVD for DVD authoring.

                                   

                                  This will provide better results for the DVD.  However, whether or not that improvement will be noticeable is another matter.

                                  • 14. Re: Rendered Clip Properties 25.00i UFF
                                    vicfene Community Member

                                    Excellent. I will follow that.  Regards