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Motion and track mattes do not mix. You need to do the motion in a nested sequence.
Take the track matte and the video that you are applying motion to into a new sequence. Set the matte on top and set the opacity to 50%. Use motion on the video just the way you want it. Then poke out the eyeball on the matte's track so you don't see it.
Now you can nest that sequence into the main sequence and apply the track matte to it instead of the original clip. Since Premiere Pro does not see the motion in the main sequence (it is actually happening in the nested sequence) then it does not bother the track matte effect.
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I'd like to clarify a bit on this: you're facing two issues there:
- render order;
- bugs in the Track Matte Key effect.
Regard to the first one, all effects are rendered in a particular order:
- from top to bottom according to their position in a list of applied effects;
- nested content is rendered in ascending bubble mode: from a greatest depth to a surface.
Therefore, so as to trick the render order you can e.g. instead of manipulating the Motion effect's properties apply the Transform effect prior to any other Standard effects or nest your footage and manipulate the Motion effect's properties inside the nested sequence.
Regard to the Track Matte Key bugs, you can't sometimes trick it with the Transform effect and, hence, as Steven said, have to nest.
Thanks a lot for the replies, they're very helpful.
So it isn't actually my idea, there is actually a bug in the Track Matte key effect. Is it at least resolved in version CS6?
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Nope. Steven can check if the Track Matte Key bugs are fixed in PrPro CC. I'm currently in the middle of a large project and don't have time to test the CC.
Thanks a lot.
Bug. Inconvenient implementation. Call it what you will.
Either way, we have lived with it for a while. So long, in fact, that I guess I don't even think about it any more. I just put tracks mattes on a different sequence out of habit anymore.
FYI, it works the same way in CC.
The reason I call it an inconvenient implementation is that I don't think Adobe considers it a bug.
When Adobe increases the hight of a transition, which causes difficulties in selecting an edit point, - it's the inconvenient implementation.
When an effect behaves in unpredictable way, not in the way it should even though all the logic, including render order, is respected, - it's a bug.
I agree, I just don't think Adobe agrees. Or they would have fixed it by now.
Not necessarily. They might simply decide not to spend any efforts (resources) on fixing a bug or put the fixing off - there is a load of examples, unfortunately.
Hi, I tried my hand at working around this "inconvenience"; I just posted my solution to this problem in the Pr Elements forum without realizing where I was replying to. I don't know if this counts as a cross post, but anyway:
The order of effects is the actual issue.
If you use Transform instead of Motion I believe that you might be able to make it work in Premiere Pro.
thanks, using Transform instead of the Motion effect works.
Steven, so helpful! Thank you! Was trying to track matte some video with motion applied, and it was driving me crazy! Nested the vid, and BOOM! Worked perfectly. Such a simple solution.
You are welcome Dave. It is always a pleasure to see people using the search function and getting the info they need. It makes posting in a forum seem like so much more of a valuable way to spend time.