11 Replies Latest reply: Jul 11, 2013 6:31 PM by Ken 47 RSS

    So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?

    benwiggy Community Member

      I'm sure lots of people would be grateful for a quick "review" of the new CC apps from those who are prepared/forced to use it.

       

      I've heard rumours that Dreamweaver seems to have been "dumbed down", and some of the old applications are no longer included -- Encore? Distiller?

       

      Any amazing features that make the whole thing worthwhile?

        • 1. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
          W. Bravenboer Community Member

          Been playing around with the Trial programs, Indesign, Illustrator and Photoshop.... Not impressed at all, a few nice things, but nothing really deal-breaking.

          Photoshop is pretty hard on 'older' graphics cards, no 'oil-painting' for you (never needed it anyway).

          Edge Animate is nice, though, can't say anything about the other programs.

           

          I hate, absolutely hate the dark interface, so first thing; switched it back to 'light'.

           

          On my 2008 MacPro no marked speed difference (but I have not really done any serious work in the trials).

          So CS 5.5 will be with us for a while yet!

          For CC users, I hope that the Font Management plug-ins will be updated soon.

          • 2. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
            benwiggy Community Member

            Thanks for that. Anyone else want to provide a review of the "new experience"?

            • 3. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
              benwiggy Community Member

              Clearly, no one has managed to install CC and get it running yet.

              • 4. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
                cc_merchant Community Member

                Who would willingly opt for being held hostage by Adobe?

                 

                Either you pay rent till you can no longer afford it, like a house or a car, and when you stop paying rent you get evicted or the car gets repo'ed and you are left with nothing, or

                 

                You live a long Adobe-paying renters live and your inheritors are left with nothing.

                 

                 

                • 5. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
                  W_J_T Community Member

                  benwiggy wrote:

                   

                  - So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?

                  - Clearly, no one has managed to install CC and get it running yet.

                   

                  I think without even reading the threads, the recent thread titles (across all the product forums) alone tell the story of "is it any good" since it's launch. Seems like the marketing push couldn't actually veil the truth in many regards.

                  • 6. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
                    benwiggy Community Member

                    Here's one of the few actual reviews I've seen, and it's only for Photoshop:

                     

                    http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/photoshop-cc-modest-upgrades-shackle d-to-terrible-rental-model/

                     

                    The skinny: couple of new features, terrible price.

                    • 7. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
                      meganchi Community Member

                      Our company just purchased CC. I've launched and played around with Adobe Illustrator.

                      What I liked immediately was;

                      1) You can setup Adobe Illustrator (including Keyboard Shortcuts) and Sync the settings so that they are automatically saved to the cloud. So, if you want to work both from home and at the office without having to setup everything again on another computer, it remembers your settings.

                      2) You can place multiple images at the same time (shift clicking all the images you want to place into Illustrator).

                      3) Embedded images can be made into brushes. For example, I took a swath of carpet, saved as jpeg, placed in Illustrator CC, and embedded image, then I created a really cool brush on the fly by draggin the embedded image to the brush panel and saving as a pattern brush.

                      4) The Touch Type tool was interesting. It allows you to scale and rotate individual letters within a word, but it maintains the live text.

                      5) Another text tool feature that I like is that you can change floating text into a paragraph and vice versa by double clicking to the right of the text handle.

                      6) The "Package" feature under the File menu, quickly collects fonts, images for output, which is a real time saver without having to pay for a 3rd party plugin. However, the "Scoop" plugin did the same function is now available for free for earlier versions of Illy, (CS3,4&5).

                       

                      What I didn't like, the transparency sliders are no longer available. In place of them is a fly-out menu showing increments of 10%. I don't like having to go the fly-out menu route to choose an opacity level. However, you can use either the up/down arrow keys or your mouse wheel to quickly change opacity to odd percentages. I still liked the sliders that used to be in the older version of illy. But, at least there is a work around.

                       

                      I also did not like the dark, ugly interface, so I quickly adjusted my preferences to "light". Other than that, it didn't have anything else that screamed AMAZING to me, yet.

                      • 8. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
                        Aegis Kleais Community Member

                        It's called Adobe CC because C is Roman Numeral for 100 and CC = 200 which is the minimum percentage in which you'll pay for the software you want.

                         

                        100% of what I used to pay was ~$25 a month.  Now they want me to pay 200% ($50/month).

                         

                        Et tu, Adobe?

                        • 9. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
                          Marcus Koch Community Member

                          Hey Aegis, its is only 200% if you an individual. If you want to buy CC in the name of a company you must buy the team version, which is another 40% on top, so in total it ends up being 275% more expensive. That's a steep  price they are charging for hundreds of new bugs ans unfullfilled promises.

                          • 10. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
                            DanielW2011 Community Member

                            And the team version does not work there is no advantage to paying for a team account over a single account. If you are naive enough to sign up for a team account and then discover that is doesn't work they CAN NOT downgrade to a single account Adobe either refuses to do this or can't do it with their one way in Cash Cow.

                             

                            I am paying for a team account for the last two months, it doesn't work they won't give me a discount for the lack of server and will not downgrade my account to a single user. I am also stuck paying for it for another 6 months but we will see what the credit card company says about one of their customers paying for something and then the vendor does not meet their obligations. I'll let them dispute this with Adobe I am tired of wasting my time with them.

                             

                            This has cost me a lot and I have learned my lesson, let this be an example for any one else that was lured in by the smoke and mirror tricks of MAX2013 and their false and misleading advertisement.

                            • 11. Re: So, those are who are using CC ... is it any good?
                              Ken 47 Community Member

                              I have purchased every version of Photoshop since v3, three versions of illustrator, Audition and every version of Premiere since version 4 prior to pro. That's not to mention Go Live and Livemotion which Adobe dropped.

                               

                              Apart from some problem installing and problems with being asked to sign in the applications I use have worked fine. What worries me is that the applications are so fully featured that I don't see what killer functionality is really needed although bug fixes and stability and performance improvements are always welcome. Why we should be excited about camera shake reduction in a package like Photoshop aimed at the professional market I really don't know. I would think it would be more appropriate in elements. Many folks have asked what incentive Adobe will have to innovate when all their customer base is on the cloud.

                               

                              The decision not to provide further support for encore is bizarre as the big selling point adobe had was the tight integrations of their applications. I wonder what else will be trimmed down in the future, not the price for sure.

                               

                              Over almost twenty years I have been a good ambassador for Adobe and given many talks to amateur clubs on Adobe product but I am afraid to say I now really feel dumped on. How nice it would be if Adobe would do something for the many loyal non-commercial users who are too old to have any more children and thus be eligible for educational pricing. Microsoft do it with Office 365.

                               

                              Thanks for letting me get that of my chest and I hope I have not caused any offence. It seems like I have only been an Adobe customer under sufferance all these years.

                               

                              One final point I would like to make is that although I don’t know what the take up is for CC the forums don’t make good reading for Adobe, even allowing for the fact that few unhappy customers than happy ones post on forums.