20 Replies Latest reply: Nov 4, 2013 10:26 AM by giant JELLYFISH RSS

    Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options

    MSGreen

      The removed features page http://helpx.adobe.com/dreamweaver/using/the-new-modernized-dreamweaver-cc.html very helpfully explained that the HEAD CONTENT options have been removed --

       

      • View > Head Content
      • Keyboard shortcut (ctrl + shift + H)
      • Header View Toolbar in Design view

       

      But... WHY?!!!

       

      This is a feature I've counted on to easily add header metadata to unique documents.  Now I have to go to CODE view and scroll my way up to the head content in order to edit this data. "New modernized Dreamweaver CC" is all very well & good, but not when it creates such an obvious obstacle to routine workflow.

       

      Do you have any suggestions as to how this functionality can be restored to my workflow?

       

      Until then... thank goodness I haven't uninstalled CS6 yet.

       

      — Mel

       

      (I'm completely willing to adapt to more efficient ways if I know what they are... it's having to adapt to less efficient ways that's an issue.)

        • 1. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
          MSGreen Community Member

          So, two weeks later: is anyone at Adobe going to answer my question?

          • 2. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
            MysticKnight Community Member

            I also want to know why the head content can't be modified in Design view. Like Mel said, I don't mind learning a new workflow if it's better, but I can't possibly see how there's a benefit to forcing me to go to Code view to edit META tags.

             

            Bill

            • 3. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
              bgupta16 Employee Hosts

              Hi  Mel/Bill,

               

              The option is there in Insert Menu. Please have a look here.

              http://helpx.adobe.com/dreamweaver/using/changes-insert-options-creative-cloud.html#id_153 12

               

              You can add META tags in both design and code view.

               

              Insert Panel > Head > Meta

               

              HTH

              Thanks

              Bhawna

              • 4. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                MysticKnight Community Member

                Correct me if I'm wrong, but that only inserts the META tag. Not only that, but if the META tag is already there, it just keeps inserting another duplicate META tag with no warning at all.

                 

                Sometimes, if not most of the time, I only want to modify the META tags that are already there. In the last version of Dreamweaver, that was very easy to do in Design view. Now it doesn't look like that's possible at all in Design view.

                 

                Bill

                • 5. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                  bgupta16 Employee Hosts

                  Yes, that is only for Inserting META Tags..

                  • 6. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                    MysticKnight Community Member

                    So not only was the ability to modify and/or view META data in Design view taken away, but a new Insert command was added that allows users to easily create duplicate META tags.

                     

                    Am I missing something here or is that a very bad way of handing META tags?

                    • 7. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                      sfainc0110 Community Member

                      I also wish Adobe can bring "Head Content options" back. It really helps me (designer) to quickly see the existing of the META tags plus you can easily copy and paste the icons from one file to the next (plus rearranging) rather than painstakingly hilighting the lengthy code.

                      • 8. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                        craighp Community Member

                        Will this toolbar for the header return? I too find it very frustrating not being able to see the header content at a glance.

                         

                        I know screen space it at a premium but we really do need this if we are working on headers. It could become a new tab on the Properties Inspector perhaps?

                        • 9. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                          hans-g. CommunityMVP

                          Hello,

                           

                          I qoute your: "Do you have any suggestions as to how this functionality can be restored to my workflow?". One way to interest Adobe's development team is to use the "wishform". Here https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform, where you will find this: "Use this form to request new features or suggest modifications to existing features."

                           

                          Hans-Günter 

                          • 10. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                            MysticKnight Community Member

                            The frustrating part of all this is it wastes our time for no good reason. There simply is not a good reason to not allow users to access the META tags in design view.

                             

                            If it were a feature request, I understand, but it's not. This is a feature that was purposely taken away. To make matters worse, there is a pull down menu that "allows" users to insert multiple META tags for the same definition. Since we can't see that in design view, it's much more likely users will end up with multiple META tags for the same thing. Not good.

                             

                            The one question that hasn't been answer yet is why was it removed?

                             

                            If there's a logical reason, even if I disagree with it, at least I wouldn't feel so bad the inconvenience this has caused and the time that it has wasted.

                            • 11. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                              King_Federer

                              The Insert > Head > Meta/Keyword/Description is there, but I'm finding that it's not even working correctly. For example, if you wanted to enter keywords, you would think that going insert>head>keyword would put the meta tags in the head, but it actually just places it where ever your cursor happens to be.

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                                John Waller CommunityMVP

                                For example, if you wanted to enter keywords, you would think that going insert>head>keyword would put the meta tags in the head, but it actually just places it where ever your cursor happens to be.

                                 

                                For me, it places it in a meta tag in the head of the document.

                                • 13. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                                  David_Powers CommunityMVP

                                  King_Federer wrote:

                                   

                                  For example, if you wanted to enter keywords, you would think that going insert>head>keyword would put the meta tags in the head, but it actually just places it where ever your cursor happens to be.

                                  If your cursor is in Code view, that's exactly what happens. If the focus is in Design view, Dreamweaver inserts the <meta> tag in the <head> of the page.

                                   

                                  This has always been the case with Code view. Dreamweaver inserts code at the current insertion point, even if it results in invalid code. For example, you might be building a dynamic page with conditional statements, so Dreamweaver doesn't try to intervene. Obviously, a <meta> tag would never go in the <body> of a page, but Dreamweaver doesn't check such things when you're working directly in Code view.

                                  • 14. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                                    giant JELLYFISH Community Member

                                    The lack of being able to see the Head Content icons slows down my work flow!

                                    I used to add/remove it by clicking an icon and hitting delete, in DW CC there is no longer that option, so bogus!

                                     

                                    dw-headcontent.jpg

                                     

                                     

                                    BRING BACK THE ABILITY TO SEE HEAD CONTENT OVER THE DESIGN VIEW!!!

                                    • 15. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                                      alienblood

                                      I totally agree with you JELLYFISH, why on earth have they removed it?

                                       

                                      I am always using it to quickly select css and javascript links, script blocks etc.

                                       

                                      Argh!

                                      • 16. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                                        giant JELLYFISH Community Member

                                        BRING BACK THE ABILITY TO SEE HEAD CONTENT OVER THE DESIGN VIEW!!!


                                         

                                        I used to be able to click a code block, etc. simply by clicking on the icon, now I have to scroll thru code and wonder if i got it ok, or not...

                                        • 17. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                                          Preran Employee Hosts

                                          Hi all,

                                           

                                          A better way to make your wishes heard is by filling the wishlist form. If there a re suficient numbers with a valid use case, the product team can prioritize the request accordingly.

                                           

                                          https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

                                           

                                          Thanks,

                                          Preran

                                          • 18. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                                            giant JELLYFISH Community Member

                                            Hi Preran,

                                             

                                            Thanks for the suggestion which I already actioned.

                                             

                                            The question is, do you really listen to the needs of the end-user?

                                             

                                            Sufficient numbers does not always mean that something is good and/or bad.

                                            • 19. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                                              David_Powers CommunityMVP

                                              giant JELLYFISH wrote:

                                               

                                              The question is, do you really listen to the needs of the end-user?

                                               

                                              Sufficient numbers does not always mean that something is good and/or bad.

                                              Let me try to answer that from the perspective of someone who has been involved in testing Dreamweaver for many years.

                                               

                                              In my experience, the Dreamweaver product team does respond to end-users. At the same time, it has its own ideas about the direction it wants Dreamweaver to go. As you point out, sufficient numbers doesn't necessarily indicate whether an idea is good or bad. So, even if a large number of people submit requests for a particular feature, it doesn't guarantee it will be implemented.

                                               

                                              What it does guarantee is that the idea will be given serious consideration, even if it's eventually rejected. Many people dismiss the idea of filing reports through the official form, saying Adobe never listens. But if people refuse to submit their ideas/complaints through that form, it's not a case of Adobe not listening. The message never gets through in the first place.

                                               

                                              Over the years, I've submitted hundreds of feature requests and bug reports. Not all of them get acted on, but a significant proportion do. Some hints to improve your chances of being listened to:

                                              • For a feature request (or getting a feature reinstated), state briefly why the feature is important to your workflow. Explain why its absence hampers your productivity.
                                              • For a bug report, provide clear steps to reproduce the bug, and give some details of your operating system, RAM, and other software that was running at the same time. If it's an intermittent bug, provide any information that might help indicate what triggered it (e.g., what were you doing just before it happened?)
                                              • Don't rant.
                                              • 20. Re: Dreamweaver CC: Head Content options
                                                giant JELLYFISH Community Member

                                                Thank you for your response David and good (n)etiquette for posting comments.