So is there a way I can determine if the very limited CS6 supports my card (or could be succesfully hacked as such)
Also still wondering if I can upgrade to CS6 from 5.5... or if everything is cloud now?
I'd even consider going cloud if I could get Premiere a la carte, and if there was some assurance my card would work with MPE GPU setting.
Apologies that the cloud thing has confused if not alienated me a bit.
Good idea. I wont go into the gory details about the rabbit hole that was getting adobe applications manager, adobe cloud and finally adobe premiere cc trial (did I miss any?) to finally install without error (Renaming a folder in the program folder - really?) - but once I finally got there the MPE GPU option was not only available but already enabled by default.
Remember my card is NOT listed on their current list of compatible cards.
Interesting way for me to have to get a real answer, but a far more interesting way to get a customer to suddenly have to think about upgrading 2 generations.
Aw well 30 days to feel it out anyway.
Thanks for bringing that to our attention.
We will review that list with our partners to make sure that the list is more accurate in the future.
I'm sorry to hear about your experience with Adobe Applications Manager. I encourage you to file a report against that product so that future experiences can be improved.
Spoke too soon of course. The saga continues.
The brand new Adobe Premiere CC trial crashes on export.
When I disable MPE "GPU" setting (switch it to "Software") it exports fine.
Glad I didn't buy this thing yet.
Also - not to take away the impact of a bug like this (and it is a bug -- because remember I did no hack and PCC is seing my card and enabling MPE GPU all by itself) - but does PCC lean on MPE or any GPU for export rendering anyway? I was under the impression from the forums that it does nothing to aid in export rendering.
Yes. You should be seeing a performance delta between GPU vs Software. Mercury GPU renders with maximum render quality enabled so you will have to manually enable it in software mode for comparison.
What type of media are you trying to export and to what format? Also, what version of the AMD driver are you using?
To be clear...
Using the Premiere CC trial -- with MPE GPU enabled I am fine within the software editing. I do see advantages on performance depending on the effects - but definitley more yellow lines than with GPU off and Software Only on. All good there.
What I am saying is when I am finished editing and go to export a file out - it crashes unless I switch MPE to Software Only, then it exports fine.
Beyond the bug itself, I am also asking if I really care. In other words does MPE with GPU enabled affect anything speed related when I am out of the editor and on to "exporting media". Because it was my understanding MPE has everything to do with editing within Premiere and nothing to do with once you hit "export" which then relies solely on your CPU since you are no longer "playing back" at that point.
Any clarification/conifrmation on this specifically?
Exporting MPEG raw to mp4's which I do all day long for several years now from my current version of CS5.5 with no issue. But remember CS5.5 doesnt recognize my card as Open CL compatible, thats why we're giving CC a go.
As mentioned up front this is a brand new video card for me so I immediately grabbed the latest drivers. Asking for the specifics is a loaded question since AMD breaks down their driver versions into indivdual categories - so beyond saying its indeed the latest version according to amd site and autodetect I can say its Driver Package 12.104, Catalyts Version 13.4. etc. etc
Thanks for engaging me on this.
Exporting media with GPU enabled (when not crashing) should provide better performance when exporting when compared to the same export in software mode @ max render quality.
The performance deltas will largely depend on what type and number of filters applied.
I too appreciate the engagement on this matter. This helps us as well.
OK if that is indeed true (export times have the potential to be increased by MPE GPU enabled) then we have a problem.
My card is causing MPE GPU to auto-enable by default when editing a project within Premiere CC, and I see it working (yellow lines, noticeable performance increase in some playback cases depending on effects applied and amount of stacked clips on timeline, etc).
However when I go to export that same project with MPE GPU enabled the export window pops and then CC crashes with the Windows 7 "Adobe Premiere CC has stopped working" error message.
(I wasn't sure what blood type I was so I left that section blank on the form).
Still crashing like a mother whenever I export (from a variety of projects) and leave "Mercury Playback Engine GPU" engaged. So fingers crossed.
Any idea if Adobe typically responds personally to these requests? Or at least acknowledges they recieved them?
The adobe team contacted me personally offline and asked a lot of good questions and tried their best. They may even still be working on it.
But in the end I had to tap out. Sad because its a great video card in every other practical sense.
Just installed a brand new GeForce GTX 680. I get yellow when working in timeline, it doesnt crash on export/render and I honestly "think" I'm feeling a noticeable lift in render times now in the couple tests I did with familiar recent projects.
See... nothing taking out a small personal loan couldn't remedy. SMH.
A barley used AMD Radeon HD 6990 will be on eBay soon. (Hey Adobe tech if you would like it for your testing lab hit me up and we'll work something out.)