7 Replies Latest reply: Jun 27, 2013 2:03 PM by Aaron Mulqueen RSS

    Sony VG-10 - Premiere CS6 does NOT seem to like it

    RippleEffect2002 Community Member

      Been working with CS6 for a while now and footage from both a Sony NX5U and an AX2000. Absolutely NO issues whatsoever. But I recently got a VG-10 as I had been doing some stuff with my Canon 7D and LOVE the DLSR look. The VG10 footage is gorgeous but I've run into an issue; Premiere does NOT seem to like the m2ts files from the VG10 (NO ISSUES WITH M2TS FROM OTHER CAMERAS). I can edit it for a little while, maybe half hour, then the timeline starts freezing. To be more accurate, the VIDEO freezes. Sound plays fine but the picture lags. Takes a while to refresh. I thought it might be the computer so I tried it on my other edit suite and got the same thing. The only solution I've found is to convert the VG10 footage to MP4 files and then there's no problems but this is a pain in the ***.

       

      Anyone had this issue and found a better solution than converting all the VG10 footage

       

      BTW the computer are both Win7 64 bit, both have 24GB Corsair memory and GeForce GTX260 video cards.

        • 1. Re: Sony VG-10 - Premiere CS6 does NOT seem to like it
          Aaron Mulqueen Community Member

          Hey Ripple, I don't work with STD MPEG-2 but I do run a NEX VG-20EH with WIN 7 64 SP1 (GTX690) and Production Premium CS6. Given that I have a very similar setup, I thought I would run some tests and I cannot reproduce your case with MPEG-2 even with Dynamic Linked clips to AE. Are you running WIN 7 SP1? And why convert to MPEG-4, why not shoot in AVCHD (AVC HD - PS, FX, FH, HQ or LP)? All these AVC HD formats are MPEG-4 (AVC/H.264). Also check Preimere Pro's Audio Hardware settings are set to WDM Sound. I've found that certain ASIO drivers will freeze the timeline.

           

          Hope this helps.

          • 2. Re: Sony VG-10 - Premiere CS6 does NOT seem to like it
            SAFEHARBOR11 Community Member

            This may have nothing to do with the issue, but how do you import the files into Premiere? Best to copy the entire folder structure of memory card to your hard drive without alterations, then in Premiere, use the "Media Browser" rather than "Import". The keeps all the metadata intact and helps with playback for some formats.

             

            Thanks

             

            Jeff Pulera

            Safe Harbor Computers

            • 3. Re: Sony VG-10 - Premiere CS6 does NOT seem to like it
              RippleEffect2002 Community Member

              Win7 SP1 Yes, WDM sound yes.

               

              The weird thing is it ONLY does it with the VG10 footage, the MT2S files, which as near as I can tell are identical to the M2TS files out of the NX5U and the AX2000, which neither system has any issues with. It's a mystery. Near as I can tell, the cameras (all 3) only shoot in the M2TS format and thus far I've never had any issues. Just strange

              • 4. Re: Sony VG-10 - Premiere CS6 does NOT seem to like it
                RippleEffect2002 Community Member

                I import from the camera using Sony's Content Management Utility. It stitches the clips back together (since the cards use fat32) and then import them into premiere from the folder that the Utlity downloads them into. Always done it this way and like I said neither edit system has had any issue with the same format out of the NX5U or AX2000. And I would have thought it was the system but both are choking on the VG10 clips. But if I convert them to MP4 at the same data rate (24MB/s) no issues at all.

                • 5. Re: Sony VG-10 - Premiere CS6 does NOT seem to like it
                  SAFEHARBOR11 Community Member

                  That's a common misconception that one needs to "fix" the clips BEFORE importing to Premiere. Actually does more harm than good for some users.

                   

                  I rented an AX-2000 a couple weeks ago to shoot 6 dance recitals of 2.5 hours each. To get the clips into the CS6 system, I simply copied the entire contents of each SDHC card to unique folders on my video hard drive, then used MEDIA BROWSER in Premiere CS6 to import. Media Browser simply showed me ONE long clip in the bin and when I moved it to the timeline, again one long seamless clip, no glitches at the "invisible" seams or anything. Nothing could be simpler. Keeps perfect sync with the other camera, which was recorded as ProRes using Ninja 2.

                   

                  That's the beauty of Media Browser, that it looks at the metadata and knows how to properly handle spanned clips properly behind the scenes, so that you don't have to worry or do extra work. Please try this workflow and see if it fixes the issue.

                   

                  Thanks

                   

                  Jeff Pulera

                  Safe Harbor Computers

                  • 6. Re: Sony VG-10 - Premiere CS6 does NOT seem to like it
                    RippleEffect2002 Community Member

                    I've never 'fixed' clips before running into these issues with the VG10 footage. Always imported the m2ts files directly and never had any issues with footage from my AX2000 or NX5U. But the next time i shoot with the VG10 I'll try importing the way you said and see if I get different results.

                    • 7. Re: Sony VG-10 - Premiere CS6 does NOT seem to like it
                      Aaron Mulqueen Community Member

                      RippleEffect2002 wrote:

                      the cameras (all 3) only shoot in the M2TS format

                      Hey Ripple, I cannot speak for the other cameras you have but the NEX VG series handycams do shoot in formats other than STD MPEG-2. In fact STD MPEG-2 on a NEX VG handycam is the lowest recording quality. NEX VG-10, 20, 30 and 900 support AVCHD (MPEG-4) with these onboard HD quality settings - PS, FX, FH, HQ and LP all of which are AVC/H.264 (MPEG-4).