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1. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Todd_Kopriva Jun 28, 2013 5:06 PM (in response to Stephen Pickering122)See this page for information about hardware for Premiere Pro, Photoshop, andAfter Effects: http://adobe.ly/pRYOuk
> Another page said to go with a QUADRO 4000 ($700+).
Why? The GTX 5xx and 6xx cards do great for accelerating computation for Premiere Pro and After Effects.
> GeForce GTX 670 ($370) (no CUDA support by adobe).
Why do you say that? The card is on this list:
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2. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
John T Smith Jun 28, 2013 7:10 PM (in response to Stephen Pickering122)>ATX Mid Tower
I built my computer with a mid-tower, and I've kicked myself several times since then... a full tower is much better for cabling and air flow
This one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225 does cost more, but I think it is better
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3. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Stephen Pickering122 Jun 29, 2013 9:14 AM (in response to Todd_Kopriva)Thank you Todd,
I looked at http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html which does not look like it includes the GTX 670. Your link posted was for AE (which is probably a bigger need for me anyways), but will this be the same for Premiere Pro? As I mentioned I don't know much about the computer hardware so your suggestions and insight is invaluable to be! Thank you very much for your time.
I was advised that a GTX 660 or above is ideal. Should I look at the 700 series or save the money with the 670?
Any other suggestions about specs? is 32GB overkill or will I appreciate the extra money spent? To be honest I know know what heavy AE use qualifies as but I do know I will be doing more and more. I could always upgrade the ram later too.
Thank you again for your help!
-Stephen
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4. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Stephen Pickering122 Jun 29, 2013 9:17 AM (in response to John T Smith)Thanks Todd, I hadn't put much thought into the case. I think I'll set a deal alert with Slickdeals and keep an eye out for some of the parts which are not very specific. I'll set an alert for a full size case. Thanks for the suggestion!
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5. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
John T Smith Jun 29, 2013 9:44 AM (in response to Stephen Pickering122)Go to http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1238382 and click the picture in the 1st message to expand it to readable size
Do note that Harm is a BIG fan of overclocking, which you don't need to do (I don't) if you are not comfortable with the idea
PS - my case http://forums.adobe.com/thread/652694 has 2 added side fans and 1 added front fan... the full tower I linked above has ALL fans already installed
My cooling works just fine (with the fans I added) but the inside is "tight" for cabling
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6. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Todd_Kopriva Jul 1, 2013 2:14 PM (in response to Stephen Pickering122)> is 32GB overkill or will I appreciate the extra money spent?
That amount of RAM is definitely not overkill. RAM speeds a lot of things up, but most notably it gives more capacity to the cache, so that items can be read from memory instead of rerendered or read from the slower disk cache.
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7. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Stephen Pickering122 Jul 2, 2013 9:24 AM (in response to Todd_Kopriva)Thanks Todd. What should I be looking for ias far as speed, timing, etc.? Reading over suggestions on ram I learned that with this particular mobo and cpu (ASUS P9X79 Pro w/ Intel Core i7 3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz - Neither purchased yet) the Ripjaws "Z" Series was recomended instead of the "X" series. Because I'm not in a huge rush for it I would like to watch for deals on parts. Should I set my sights on the Ripjaws Z's or can I get something else (Crucial, etc.)? If so, what specs should I set as my bar to buy (1600 vs 2133, etc.)?
Newegg has some Ripjaws Z http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231501 with the following specs for 8x4GB at $246:
- DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000)
- Timing 11-11-11-30
- Cas Latency 11
- Voltage 1.6V
Newegg also has some 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231498 with the following specs for 8x4GB at $290
- DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
- Timing 9-9-9-24
- Cas Latency 9
- Voltage 1.5V
I've read lower voltage is better for overclocking (which I probably wont be doing) but that's about all I know. The 2133 cards are on sale but I haven't researched enough to know if that's a sale I should grab right now or look other brands.
Thank you very much for your guidance!
PS, John T Smith, sorry for calling you "Todd!" I just caught that.
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8. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
jamesp2 Jul 2, 2013 9:50 AM (in response to Stephen Pickering122)First of all, whatever you get for 32GB, you want 4 8GB sticks, not 8 4GB sticks (otherwise, you'll fill all your slots, and won't be able to expand in future). 4 sticks are also cheaper than 8. See this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231507
And you want Z-series, not X. Z is specifically for the X79 platform, X is for older platforms.
Can't speak to the actual realized advantages of 2300 over 1600, but many people are happy with the Z-series 1600 on an Asus Pro MB, this user included If you enable "XMP" in the bios, the timings will be configured automatically.
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9. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Stephen Pickering122 Jul 2, 2013 9:57 AM (in response to jamesp2)Thank you James. I understood more sticks (8x4GB) was advantageous somehow as it was able to utilize each stick simultaneously. Though I do understand the logic of losing every available slot effectively eliminating future upgrades without complete replacement. 4x8GB IS cheaper (compaired to regular priced 8x4 sticks)... Is my understanding incorrect or is it simply not a big enough factor to push me to buy 8x4?
So the Z-series is best for this. Are there other Z-Series comparible models from other brands? Again, the only reason I ask is that since I have time to look for deals I would like to know if I should ONLY be looing at G-Skill or something else.
Thank you!
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10. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Nicol Simard Jul 2, 2013 12:05 PM (in response to Stephen Pickering122)Whatever you do, get 4 sticks. There is no such thing as too much RAM. And since there are 8 slots on the mobo, you'd be locking yourself out of the possibility to upgrade at a later time. And as you were told already, it is the cheapest route.
I would also suggest you get a biggest power supply. Since PPro CC supports multiple GPUs, 850 Watts will probably end up not being enough for two video cards. Like I said in my other paragraph, do not limit your options. You'll kick yourself the day you decide to add another GPU and you'll have to buy a more powerful power supply.
As for the GTX670, you've got the word from an Adobe rep that it works. What better recommandation can you hope for. And if you've got the cash, go for the GTX770. It is basically the same as a GTX680 but cheaper. That sounds like a great deal to me.
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11. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Stephen Pickering122 Jul 6, 2013 12:15 PM (in response to Todd_Kopriva)I purchased a GeForce GTX 670. After installing it in my current system I was dissapointed that it in fact is NOT supported by Premiere Pro So my understanding was correct that it is NOT supported. I know your post specifically referenced AE but when no one corrected me I just assumed the PPRO doc was outdated. My fault, just dissapoint
Back to the hack I guess.
But it IS supported in AE still, right? How do I confirm it's being utilized?
Thanks!
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12. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Nicol Simard Jul 6, 2013 12:47 PM (in response to Stephen Pickering122)There is no need to hack into the text file to get the use of the card. Just change the Mercury engine setting and tell it to use the GPU and PPro will use your 670 any way. No fuss, no muss.
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13. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Stephen Pickering122 Jul 6, 2013 2:02 PM (in response to Nicol Simard)Thanks for the reply Nicol. Where do I find the Mercury Engine settings? Of course I went to Project > Project Settings > General in Premiere Pro. It gave me only the Software option for Mercury Playback Engine. Do I have to configure my card somehow or install something in addition to the latest GPU driver from Nvidia's website?
Thanks again Nicol!
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14. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Nicol Simard Jul 6, 2013 2:22 PM (in response to Stephen Pickering122)Sorry, I assumed that you were using PPro CC. With that version, you can enable the Mercury Playback Engine even if the card is not supported. With earlier versions of PPro, you must use the hack. That's what I did with my Titan and CS6 and it worked fine.
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15. Re: Can you give suggestions on new editing hardware?
Stephen Pickering122 Jul 6, 2013 2:28 PM (in response to Nicol Simard)Thanks Nicol. Yeah, I'm on CS6.




