No and no. C4D Lite only works when AE CC is active and Photoshop Live 3D hasn't been in AE since CS6.
It is as Mylenium says.
See this page for details such as this:
"You open the version of CINEMA 4D that is installed with After Effects using the New > MAXON CINEMA 4D File command or the Edit Original command in After Effects. You will not see this version of CINEMA 4D installed in the Start menu on Windows or in the Applications directory on Mac OS."
Thanks Todd, Mylenium
This page is a good infomation
but damage to work on multiple OS simultaneously
it would been good to me to one big projet to the futur