9 Replies Latest reply on Jul 24, 2013 1:19 AM by dimelives1

    Published videos coming out a different size than their source...

    dimelives1

      I'm having trouble with exported ("published") videos coming out a different size (display size, not file size) than the source, even when I have the proportions, pixel aspect ratio, frame rate, etc. all set the same as what's listed on the source video's property page.

       

      What could the dealio be?...

        • 1. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
          A.T. Romano Level 7

          dimelives1

           

          The answers will be in the details so let us try to sort them out.

           

          What version of Premiere Elements are you using and on what computer operating system is it running?

           

          What are the properties of your source media and what project preset have you or the program set for the project?

          (looking for video and audio compression, frame size, frame rate, pixel aspect ratio, file extension, duration....)

           

          What are your export settings (detailed, including settings under the Advanced Button/Video Tab and Audio Tab of the preset selected, if you go there to make changes in the default settings for the preset)?

           

          Let us start here and then decide what next if necessary.

           

          Thanks.

           

          ATR

          • 2. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
            John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            Two help sections to look at

             

            1st, how are you importing and setting up your project?

            Importing Video http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1065281

            -and project settings http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1112086

             

            2nd, what are your share settings?

            Saving & Sharing http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1137128

            -Sharing to DVD or BluRay http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1137645

            -Sharing for Movies http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1051093

            -Sharing for Computer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1058237

            • 3. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
              dimelives1 Level 1

              Hey A.T., thanks for the reply.

               

              I'm using PRE 11, on Win 7 64-bit.

               

              The source vid's properties are as follows:

              - Type: MPEG Movie

              - Image Size: 450x360

              - Frame Rate: 25.00

              - Source Audio Format: 44100 Hz - compressed - Stereo

              - Project Audio Format: 44100 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo

              - Total Duration: 00:01:04:03

              - Average Data Rate: 418 KB/second

              - Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0

               

              Rather than pre-setting project settings, I just opened the program and drag-and-dropped the source file into the timeline. So let's see what project settings the program set for me...

              - Editing Mode: HD1080i (unchangeable)

              - Timebase: 29.97 frames/second (unchangeable)

              - Frame Size: 1920x1080

              - Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)

              - Fields: Upper Field First

              - Display Format: 30fps Drop-Frame Timecode

              - Title Safe Area: 20%-H, 20%-V

              - Action Safe Area: 10%-H, 10%-V

              - Audio Sample Rate: 48000 Hz

              - Display Format: Audio Samples

               

              For exporting, I started first with Windows Media format (from the "Computer" bank of formats), and based my settings off of the 720x480 16x9 29.97, customizing the settings to match the source to the best of my judgement and for good quality as such:

               

              Video tab...

              - Codec: Windows Media Video 9 Advanced Profile

              - Encoding Passes: Two

              - Bitrate Mode: Variable Unconstrained

              - Frame Width: 450 pixels

              - Frame Height: 360 pixels

              - Frame Rate [fps]: 25

              - Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square Pixels (1.0)

              - Render at Maximum Depth (checked)

              - Keyframe Interval: 5 seconds

              - Average Video Bitrate [Kbps]: 10,000

               

              Audio tab...

              - Encoding Passes: Two

              - Bitrate Mode: Variable Unconstrained

              - Codec: Windows Media Audio 10 Professional

              - Audio Format: 440 kbps, 44 kHz, 2 channel 24 bit VBR

               

               

              So let's see if all that tells us anything... Thanks!

              • 4. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
                dimelives1 Level 1

                Hi John, thanks for the response and for the resources.

                 

                For importing thus far, I've just been opening the program and using the drag-and-drop method, directly into the project window.

                 

                And for my share/export settings, please see what I listed for A.T. above.

                 

                Thanks!

                • 5. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
                  A.T. Romano Level 7

                  dimelives1

                   

                  Please give the following a try:

                   

                  Premiere Elements 11 Windows 7 64 bit

                   

                  Open new project.

                   

                  Immediately go to File Menu/New/Project, and set the project preset for PAL DV Standard. Make sure that you have a check mark next to Force Selected Project Setting on This Project before you exit the new project dialog.

                   

                  Then in the Premiere Elements workspace, Add Media/Files and Folders to import your 450 x 360 into Project Assets from where you will drag it to the Timeline.

                   

                  Once the video is on the Timeline, if you see any slight black borders in viewing the video in the Edit Mode Monitor, get rid of them by scaling. You can do this:

                  a. click on the Monitor and dragging on the bottom right handle of the bounding box that you should see around the video displayed.

                  or

                  b. use Applied Effects/Applied Effects Palette/Motion Panel expanded and the Scale property there.

                   

                  When you go to export:

                  Publish+Share

                  Computer

                  Windows Media and Presets = 720 x 576 4x3 25 and under the Advanced Button/Video Tab set

                   

                  Export.JPG

                   

                  Also, check out the Announcement at the top of the forum regarding the problem of 1/2 wmv display related to recent Windows Update.

                   

                  Please review and then let us know the outcome. And, do not hesitate to ask for clarification on anything that I have written.

                   

                  Thanks.

                   

                  ATR

                  • 6. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
                    dimelives1 Level 1

                    Thanks, A.T., that seems to get us much closer. What is it that we did differently that made the real difference here?

                    • 7. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
                      dimelives1 Level 1

                      Also, why can we not modify things like "Frame Size" in the project settings beyond their preset values?  Is there any way to "crack" or unlock this ability?...

                      • 8. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
                        A.T. Romano Level 7

                        dimelives1

                         

                        The project preset for a project needs to match the properties of the source media so that the program is directed to set up the correct space in the Edit Mode Monitor for editing purposes. In the case of Premiere Elements 11, that project setting is taken over by the program. Sometimes it does it OK, sometimes not. When not, then you set in yourself.

                         

                        And, to add to the matter, you have an atypical format for Premiere Elements in your 450 x 360 video.

                         

                        It is a longer story, but the short version for Premiere Elements 11 is that you cannot change the project preset once you have the project preset set by the program based on the properties of the first video to hit the Timeline from Project Assets. But, under certain conditions, the user can edit the Notepad document of the project.prel to achieve usually such an action. But, you really do not want to go there. If you are interested in seeing what might be involved, please check out my blog post on that subject.

                        http://www.atr935.blogspot.com/2013/05/pe11-changing-project-settings-without.html

                         

                        Please review and let us know if you are now moving forward with your project.

                         

                        Thanks.

                         

                        ATR

                        • 9. Re: Published videos coming out a different size than their source...
                          dimelives1 Level 1

                          Hey, A.T.

                           

                          I have actually found my best success so far in following the Notepad editing method you described in your blog, but only changing the FrameRect field to my source vid's specs. It alters the frame size of the project, and my exported videos come out the same size as the source, which is all I wanted from the get go!

                           

                          Thank you! Please let me know if you have any more tips or advice