8 Replies Latest reply: Jul 28, 2013 3:49 AM by Fuzzy Barsik RSS

    Proxy editing in CS6?

    dpolkat3 Community Member

      I know of several methods to do this, but has there become a standard method for proxy editing in the Premiere Pro comunity? In one method, you edit the project with smaller files, then when the edit is done, you left click each file and choose Replace With Clip>From Bin, having highlighted the equvilant HD clip. But this seems tedious and time consuming. It seems to me that fooling the program by sneaking in a folder of your hi rez stuff to replace all clips at one time is easier. How are people doing this here?  Thanks!

        • 1. Re: Proxy editing in CS6?
          joe bloe premiere Community Member

          ..has there become a standard method for proxy editing in the Premiere Pro community?

           

          I don't think there's a whole lot of proxy editing going on anymore.  I believe that's a result of the focus on native support for original media and hardware acceleration to assist in real-time playback without the need for transcoding or proxy editing.  Usually, proxy editing questions are from someone who is trying to overcome the hardware shortcomings of an underpowered system.

           

          It seems to me that fooling the program by sneaking in

          a folder of your hi rez stuff to replace all clips at one time is easier.

           

          Probably so. The problem comes when you have (for example) .MXF original media files that have been flipped to .MP4 for editing.  Re-linking can't be done by swapping out or renaming a folder.

          • 2. Re: Proxy editing in CS6?
            dpolkat3 Community Member

            joe bloe said: >" Usually, proxy editing questions are from someone who is trying to overcome the hardware shortcomings of an underpowered system."

             

            No offense, but that seems to be a pretty stock answer around here. It's akin to saying that one shouldn't use Adobe Premiere unless they are rich. Well I for one can't afford a better system right now, as I suspect many can't, or proxy editing never would have developed. And based on what I see on the web, proxy is still going strong.

             

            Any other opinions?

            • 3. Re: Proxy editing in CS6?
              joe bloe premiere Community Member

              Any other opinions?

              Sure!

               

              Just because you've read this answer more than once

              doesn't mean what's expressed is less than valid.

              In fact, you should maybe start to think it's true.

               

              You say:

              " It seems to me that fooling the program by sneaking in a folder

              of your hi rez stuff to replace all clips at one time is easier."

               

              Why not just do that until you can afford a real editing rig.

              • 4. Re: Proxy editing in CS6?
                shooternz Community Member

                Premiere has never been much used in proxy mode and was not well set up to do so.  I would say there is no "standard" way of doing so in Preimere.

                 

                Reason was that Premiere was always very useable with  multiple movie file types and developed it self around the fact that transcoding was not necessary. (eg. a la FCP).  So  no one much bothered with it.

                 

                Obviously as HD became more the normal ( eg. in the hands of amateurs) the demands on hardware became more intense.Joe is correct in his observation from many posts that have gone before and he was not giving a stock glib answer or putting you down.

                 

                If you want to transcode and do a proxy edit..do so..but you need to find a workflow such as EDL or XML  or other timecode driven method to achieve it.

                • 5. Re: Proxy editing in CS6?
                  dpolkat3 Community Member

                  I fully understand that my computer is limited in HD video editing capability and a replacement is necessary, and I realize that joe most likely understands this. I'm a retired video hobbist (video producer when I was working), and...well, I'm poor! I can't afford any computer upgrades right now, so I'm trying to fine workarounds to the HD editing problem (which is partly how proxy editing came to be in the first place). Clearly people are still doing this, and while I may understand it, I'm just not sure how to impliment it. I'm certainly not looking to upset anyone here.

                  • 6. Re: Proxy editing in CS6?
                    shooternz Community Member

                    You are not upsetting anyone here at all.

                     

                    We are just saying that proxy editing does not come up much in Premiere forum (because Adobe designed an app that does not really need it)..but when it did come up...it was generally for reasons such as your own where source footage overtook the capabilty of the hardware.

                     

                    DV editing was as simple as it got and managed by everyone once upon a time..

                    • 7. Re: Proxy editing in CS6?
                      dpolkat3 Community Member

                      Understood. Of course, even Adobe wouldn't know what systems it's software would be used on...ahh well.

                       

                      Setting aside the proxy discussion for a moment, years ago when I was using Premiere 6 (or 6.5) to edit, Premiere was known for being very .avi friendly. I don't know if that's true today. So what would be the best format to convert to for importing footage into Premiere, that started life as HD 720p .mov files? Does Premiere still prefer .avi files? I tried converting some .mov files to .avi with a Matrox Microsoft Video 1 codec and imported them, but Premiere refused to even open them???