14 Replies Latest reply on Jun 17, 2006 7:16 AM by Newsgroup_User

    Adding to stroke to marquee selection

    Level 7
      I have an area of an image that I'd like to select and outline with a
      stroke. I tried looking through the menus and through the help files but
      didn't see anything anywhere about being able to add a stroke to a marquee
      selection. Is there a way to do this in Fireworks?

      Thanks.

      --
      Heather




        • 1. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
          Level 7
          If you have FWs 8 you can convert your marquee to a path and then add the
          stroke.

          Select > Convert Marquee to Path

          Peter
          ___________________
          "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
          news:e6pjl6$e29$1@forums.macromedia.com...
          |I have an area of an image that I'd like to select and outline with a
          | stroke. I tried looking through the menus and through the help files but
          | didn't see anything anywhere about being able to add a stroke to a marquee
          | selection. Is there a way to do this in Fireworks?
          |
          | Thanks.
          |
          | --
          | Heather
          |
          |
          |
          |


          • 2. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
            Level 7
            Thanks Peter. That brings about another question: is there a way to set the
            thickness of the border? (I'm pretty new to Fireworks; I'm used to working
            in Photoshop)

            --
            Heather



            "PJR" <flash@SLICEreclusivebillionaire.com> wrote in message
            news:e6plc3$g97$1@forums.macromedia.com...
            > If you have FWs 8 you can convert your marquee to a path and then add the
            > stroke.
            >
            > Select > Convert Marquee to Path
            >
            > Peter
            > ___________________
            > "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
            > news:e6pjl6$e29$1@forums.macromedia.com...
            > |I have an area of an image that I'd like to select and outline with a
            > | stroke. I tried looking through the menus and through the help files
            > but
            > | didn't see anything anywhere about being able to add a stroke to a
            > marquee
            > | selection. Is there a way to do this in Fireworks?
            > |
            > | Thanks.
            > |
            > | --
            > | Heather
            > |
            > |
            > |
            > |
            >
            >


            • 3. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
              Level 7
              Yes, once converted to a path you can set the stroke to anything between 1
              and 100

              In the Property Inspector from top left > Path > Paint Bucket > Pencil icon
              for the Stroke.

              Peter
              "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
              news:e6plm7$gl0$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              | Thanks Peter. That brings about another question: is there a way to set
              the
              | thickness of the border? (I'm pretty new to Fireworks; I'm used to
              working
              | in Photoshop)
              |
              | --
              | Heather
              |
              |
              |
              | "PJR" <flash@SLICEreclusivebillionaire.com> wrote in message
              | news:e6plc3$g97$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              | > If you have FWs 8 you can convert your marquee to a path and then add
              the
              | > stroke.
              | >
              | > Select > Convert Marquee to Path
              | >
              | > Peter
              | > ___________________
              | > "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
              | > news:e6pjl6$e29$1@forums.macromedia.com...
              | > |I have an area of an image that I'd like to select and outline with a
              | > | stroke. I tried looking through the menus and through the help files
              | > but
              | > | didn't see anything anywhere about being able to add a stroke to a
              | > marquee
              | > | selection. Is there a way to do this in Fireworks?
              | > |
              | > | Thanks.
              | > |
              | > | --
              | > | Heather
              | > |
              | > |
              | > |
              | > |
              | >
              | >
              |
              |


              • 4. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                Level 7
                Thanks!

                --
                Heather



                "PJR" <flash@SLICEreclusivebillionaire.com> wrote in message
                news:e6pm7l$h9q$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                > Yes, once converted to a path you can set the stroke to anything between 1
                > and 100
                >
                > In the Property Inspector from top left > Path > Paint Bucket > Pencil
                > icon
                > for the Stroke.
                >
                > Peter
                > "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
                > news:e6plm7$gl0$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                > | Thanks Peter. That brings about another question: is there a way to set
                > the
                > | thickness of the border? (I'm pretty new to Fireworks; I'm used to
                > working
                > | in Photoshop)
                > |
                > | --
                > | Heather
                > |
                > |
                > |
                > | "PJR" <flash@SLICEreclusivebillionaire.com> wrote in message
                > | news:e6plc3$g97$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                > | > If you have FWs 8 you can convert your marquee to a path and then add
                > the
                > | > stroke.
                > | >
                > | > Select > Convert Marquee to Path
                > | >
                > | > Peter
                > | > ___________________
                > | > "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
                > | > news:e6pjl6$e29$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                > | > |I have an area of an image that I'd like to select and outline with a
                > | > | stroke. I tried looking through the menus and through the help
                > files
                > | > but
                > | > | didn't see anything anywhere about being able to add a stroke to a
                > | > marquee
                > | > | selection. Is there a way to do this in Fireworks?
                > | > |
                > | > | Thanks.
                > | > |
                > | > | --
                > | > | Heather
                > | > |
                > | > |
                > | > |
                > | > |
                > | >
                > | >
                > |
                > |
                >
                >


                • 5. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                  Level 7
                  You're welcome and welcome to FWs. It's different from PS and may take some
                  getting used to, but stick with it, for web stuff it takes some beating.

                  Peter

                  "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
                  news:e6pmf3$hmu$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  | Thanks!
                  |
                  | --
                  | Heather
                  |
                  |
                  |
                  | "PJR" <flash@SLICEreclusivebillionaire.com> wrote in message
                  | news:e6pm7l$h9q$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  | > Yes, once converted to a path you can set the stroke to anything between
                  1
                  | > and 100
                  | >
                  | > In the Property Inspector from top left > Path > Paint Bucket > Pencil
                  | > icon
                  | > for the Stroke.
                  | >
                  | > Peter
                  | > "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
                  | > news:e6plm7$gl0$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  | > | Thanks Peter. That brings about another question: is there a way to
                  set
                  | > the
                  | > | thickness of the border? (I'm pretty new to Fireworks; I'm used to
                  | > working
                  | > | in Photoshop)
                  | > |
                  | > | --
                  | > | Heather
                  | > |
                  | > |
                  | > |
                  | > | "PJR" <flash@SLICEreclusivebillionaire.com> wrote in message
                  | > | news:e6plc3$g97$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  | > | > If you have FWs 8 you can convert your marquee to a path and then
                  add
                  | > the
                  | > | > stroke.
                  | > | >
                  | > | > Select > Convert Marquee to Path
                  | > | >
                  | > | > Peter
                  | > | > ___________________
                  | > | > "Heather" <webstuff@OUTfeathertheweb.com> wrote in message
                  | > | > news:e6pjl6$e29$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                  | > | > |I have an area of an image that I'd like to select and outline with
                  a
                  | > | > | stroke. I tried looking through the menus and through the help
                  | > files
                  | > | > but
                  | > | > | didn't see anything anywhere about being able to add a stroke to a
                  | > | > marquee
                  | > | > | selection. Is there a way to do this in Fireworks?
                  | > | > |
                  | > | > | Thanks.
                  | > | > |
                  | > | > | --
                  | > | > | Heather
                  | > | > |
                  | > | > |
                  | > | > |
                  | > | > |
                  | > | >
                  | > | >
                  | > |
                  | > |
                  | >
                  | >
                  |
                  |


                  • 6. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                    Level 7
                    PJR wrote:
                    > Yes, once converted to a path you can set the stroke to anything between 1
                    > and 100
                    >
                    > In the Property Inspector from top left > Path > Paint Bucket > Pencil icon
                    > for the Stroke.

                    Yep. Much more efficient and flexible than Photoshop.

                    Heather, if you intend to learn Photoshop properly you'll have to get
                    out of your Photoshop mindset. You see, Fireworks is a lot more similar
                    to Illustrator than Photoshop as it is primarily a vector based
                    application. It has great bitmap editing tools but it's power and
                    flexibility come from its vector nature. Embrace it and you'll have a
                    hard time going back to Photoshop for anything other than what it was
                    intended to: editing/correcting/enhancing photographic images. For any
                    kind of design or layout work you are much better off in a vector based
                    app like Fireworks.

                    Good luck!

                    --
                    St�phane Bergeron
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                    • 7. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                      Level 7
                      I've just barely dipped my toes in Fireworks but for some time now, I've
                      been meaning and wanting to become more familiar with it. Hopefully the
                      time to play around with it will present itself in the near future and my
                      Photoshop habits won't get in the way. :-)
                      --
                      Heather


                      "St�phane Bergeron" <news@webfocusdesign.com> wrote in message
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                      > PJR wrote:
                      >> Yes, once converted to a path you can set the stroke to anything between
                      >> 1 and 100
                      >>
                      >> In the Property Inspector from top left > Path > Paint Bucket > Pencil
                      >> icon for the Stroke.
                      >
                      > Yep. Much more efficient and flexible than Photoshop.
                      >
                      > Heather, if you intend to learn Photoshop properly you'll have to get out
                      > of your Photoshop mindset. You see, Fireworks is a lot more similar to
                      > Illustrator than Photoshop as it is primarily a vector based application.
                      > It has great bitmap editing tools but it's power and flexibility come from
                      > its vector nature. Embrace it and you'll have a hard time going back to
                      > Photoshop for anything other than what it was intended to:
                      > editing/correcting/enhancing photographic images. For any kind of design
                      > or layout work you are much better off in a vector based app like
                      > Fireworks.
                      >
                      > Good luck!
                      >
                      > --
                      > St�phane Bergeron
                      > reach : connect : communicate
                      > http://www.webfocusdesign.com
                      > blog : tutorials : articles : gallery
                      > http://www.pixelyzed.com


                      • 8. Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                        Janster78
                        Ummm,

                        I'm not sure if I've totally misunderstood this, but why not whip out the good old Rectangle Tool in the 'vector' area of the toolbar? --> In the properties window change the background color to transparent (white square with red slash across it) and then select the stroke to be any color, thickness and style. Maybe even round the corners a bit? Why go through the hassle of converting the marquee?

                        I'd forget about the marquee tool in 'bitmap' area to do this.

                        Am I right, or am I right? ;) BTW, I haven't used FW8, in case something is different.
                        • 9. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                          Level 7
                          I wasn't looking to create a shape. I was trying to outline a specific area
                          of an existing image. :-)

                          --
                          Heather


                          "Janster78" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
                          news:e6va2v$n1p$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                          > Ummm,
                          >
                          > I'm not sure if I've misunderstood this horribly wrong, but why not whip
                          > out
                          > the good old Rectangle Tool in the 'vector' area of the toolbar? --> In
                          > the
                          > properties window change the background color to transparent (white square
                          > with
                          > red slash across it) and then select the stroke to be any color, thickness
                          > and
                          > style. Maybe even round the corners a bit? Why go through the hassle of
                          > converting the marquee?
                          >
                          > I'd forget about the marquee tool in 'bitmap' area to do this.
                          >
                          > Am I right, or am I right? ;)
                          >


                          • 10. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                            Janster78 Level 1
                            Oh ok, so the area is not any standard shape as an oval, rectangle or triangle etc.?
                            • 11. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                              Level 7
                              Heather wrote:
                              > I wasn't looking to create a shape. I was trying to outline a specific area
                              > of an existing image. :-)

                              An alternate method would be, once you've selected the area you want to
                              outline, to choose Select > Border Marquee, enter the number of pixels
                              you want for width. You can fill the border marquee the Paint Bucket
                              tool, or better, convert it to paths (Select > Convert Marquee to path).
                              The advantage of converting the Marquee to paths is that if you change
                              your mind later about the color, shape, or anything else, you can
                              recolor it, reshape it, or simply delete it without affecting anything
                              else.

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                              • 12. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                                Level 7
                                Correct.

                                --
                                Heather


                                "Janster78" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
                                news:e70bdq$qk5$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                > Oh ok, so the area is not any standard shape as an oval, rectangle or
                                > triangle etc.?


                                • 13. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                                  Level 7
                                  Good to know. Thanks, Linda.

                                  --
                                  Heather


                                  "Linda Rathgeber **Adobe Community Expert - Fireworks**" <lightly@sc.rr.com>
                                  wrote in message news:e70tia$hh6$1@forums.macromedia.com...
                                  > Heather wrote:
                                  >> I wasn't looking to create a shape. I was trying to outline a specific
                                  >> area of an existing image. :-)
                                  >
                                  > An alternate method would be, once you've selected the area you want to
                                  > outline, to choose Select > Border Marquee, enter the number of pixels you
                                  > want for width. You can fill the border marquee the Paint Bucket tool, or
                                  > better, convert it to paths (Select > Convert Marquee to path). The
                                  > advantage of converting the Marquee to paths is that if you change your
                                  > mind later about the color, shape, or anything else, you can recolor it,
                                  > reshape it, or simply delete it without affecting anything else.
                                  >
                                  > --
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                                  • 14. Re: Adding to stroke to marquee selection
                                    Level 7
                                    Heather wrote:
                                    > Correct.

                                    Well, Janster had it right that you're better off with a vector shape
                                    because you can edit it at any time. If your image has an irregular
                                    contour, just "Alt-Click" on its thumbnail in the Layers panel. That
                                    will create a marquee around all non transparent pixels in your image.
                                    Next go to "Select>Convert Marquee to Path" and give your new path the
                                    stroke style you want. You may have to remove the shape's fill depending
                                    on what your color settings for fill and stroke were in the toolbar
                                    before you made the conversion. You can then group the path and bitmap
                                    image together to move them as a whole if you want.

                                    In any case, this is much more flexible and easier than any method
                                    that's only based on the bitmap tools.

                                    HTH!

                                    --
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