9 Replies Latest reply on Aug 3, 2013 6:33 PM by Silkrooster

    Anyone Else Having These Problems?

    Stacey Bindman Level 1

      I have a whole set of problems which I'll put out for the community to help me find solutions to or to verify similar problems.

       

      This is the first set of problems for now:

       

      I have a slew of problems which make Photoshop a real snail slog when working repetatively on similar tasks, but with slightly diufferen tcriteria for each image - so forget automate!

       

      1.  Type results are terrible in Phootshop even with rasterization! This is especially so with low-size fonts and curved fonts. So I end up being limited to

           only a few fonts!

       

      2.  After I add type, and then adjust the fill or opacity to what I want for the type, I then rasterize the type. The type gets darker by 20% and I have to  

           readjust the settings again. Do that 50 times a sitting on Photoshop!

       

      3. When I need to use the same specific type over and over again for images, I will make a new file for the type.

           I will copy and paste the type.

       

          What then happens is that I can't move the type layer in the photo file. I have to either click the pointer, double click the layer of the type, or several 

          other actions, otherwise I can't move the type to where I want it. Sometimes, the type will even change dimensions, proportionsor size.

       

       

      4.  Using the dodge tool to create attractive additional highlights in a photo changes the colour and saturation of the action.

       

       

      Thanks,

        • 1. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
          Silkrooster Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Hve you tried resetting your preferences? These issues are not normal, and I haven't seen anyone else having the same problems. Which is why I thought of corrupted preference files.

          As for the dodge tool, what version of photoshop do you have? CS5 and higher has a new algorithm for the dodge and burn tools that help minimize the amount of color change that happens mainly with reds for skin tone.

          • 2. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
            Stacey Bindman Level 1

            Hi Silkrooster,

             

            Yes, I've reset the preferences,but I'll do that again.

            I have the Cs6 version on an older dual Imac 3.06 Mhz.

             

            Thanks for the reply.

             

            Toysearcher

            • 3. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
              Stacey Bindman Level 1

              Hi Again Silkrooster,

               

              When I reset I do the following:

               

              2013-08-02-Reset Photoshop.jpg

               

              Is this it, or is there another way?

               

              Thanks,

              Toysearcher

              • 4. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
                Noel Carboni Level 8

                Reading what you've written, I kind of think there are options you're not exercising, and that if you got things set properly you might find the results more to your liking.  Being given the ultimate in control means there are a lot of things, well, that you're required to control.

                 

                For example, there are a bunch of options for font smoothing, not to mention the fact that there is an option for choosing the gamma used in the math where font layers are mixed with other layers.

                 

                Also, there's an option for the Dodge and Burn tools called Protect Tones.  Have you tried that?

                 

                Could you put up some screen grabs showing specific examples of what you're seeing, along with a little more detail on what you'd like to see instead?  There are always SO many options in Photoshop for getting things done, perhaps some of us can make suggestions that can help with the particular things you're doing.

                 

                InPhotoshop.png

                 

                -Noel

                • 5. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
                  Stacey Bindman Level 1

                  Here's an image.

                   

                  1. Extremely soft fonts,

                  2. Dodging changes the colour

                  3. Adjusting the font to 43% fill, then rasterizing result in the font going 8-10% darker, necessitating readjusting the fill to

                      that percentage less.

                   

                  What I'd like is

                   

                  1. hard-edged and clean fonts.

                  2. When dodging, the dodge created a highliught the smae as the colour of the item, not changing it.

                  3. Having a 43% fill font then rasterizing leaves me with just that, and not needing any readjustments.

                   

                   

                  As for anyone offering solutions, please make them specific and simple.

                   

                  1. Please show me what "Protect Tones" is.

                  2. Please show me the gamma for font layers and all the othjer material that you wrote.

                   

                  Thanks,

                  Toysearcher

                  IMG_3103 copy.jpg

                  • 6. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
                    Noel Carboni Level 8

                    What is your intended use for these images?  Prints?  Web images?

                     

                    My first comment is that if this is the size you're working at, you should consider using more pixels.  "Soft" anything is often a symptom of not using enough pixels.

                     

                    Consider how this looks:

                     

                    BiggerImage.jpg

                     

                     

                    If you must work at a small pixel size, have you tried setting your Font Smoothing to "Sharp"?

                     

                    AAMethod.png

                    Consider that you may never be able to get pixel-based text to look as crisp as, for example, a browser makes it look, because a browser's font rendering is optimized for the particular display it's being shown on.

                     

                    Photoshop CC does introduce some new font smoothing settings, however, that can get you closer.

                     

                     

                     

                    During Dodging, try this setting:

                     

                    ProtectTonesSetting.png

                     

                     

                    I don't know whether it will help you with the specific things you're seeing, but in your Edit - Color Settings menu you'll find this setting.  Changing the gamma values may well net you smoother curves.

                     

                    TextGamma.png

                     

                    -Noel

                    • 7. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
                      Silkrooster Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      Stacey Bindman wrote:

                       

                      Hi Again Silkrooster,

                       

                      When I reset I do the following:

                       

                      2013-08-02-Reset Photoshop.jpg

                       

                      Is this it, or is there another way?

                       

                      Thanks,

                      Toysearcher

                       

                       

                      No, clicking reset essentials will only reset that one workspace. Not your entire preferences.

                      When starting photoshop hold down the three modifier keys (on windows it is ctrl-shift-alt) These must be held down before photoshop starts.

                      If done correctly you will see a pop up dialog box asking you if you want to reset the preferences or something along those lines. If that dialog box does not pop up, then you need to try again.

                      This will clear any changes you made to photoshop. It will look like it did when you first installed photoshop.

                       

                      That being said, I recommend following Noel's advice first.

                      • 8. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
                        Stacey Bindman Level 1

                        Hi Silkrooster,

                         

                        By accident, I just opened up CS5 and none of the "misbehaviours" regarding my font layers changing densities (getting darker) arose.

                         

                        Any suggestions as to why this happens in CS6 and not in CS5?

                         

                        The good news reegarding fonts (to answer Noel) was that a different font arose by default in CS5, which turned out to be "crisper.

                        As far ay the answer to Noels question, I am using the photos on the Web, but have to keep the photos small, ergo probably the low definition and acutancy (sharpness).

                         

                        Thanks to both Silkrooster and Noel for working so hard to solve my problems,

                         

                        Stacey Bindman

                        Toysearcher

                        • 9. Re: Anyone Else Having These Problems?
                          Silkrooster Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                          Low resolution images can affect the quality of your final document, like the crispness of fonts.

                           

                          In your menu goto Image>Image size

                           

                          And see what your pixel dimentions are. If possible post a screen shot of that dialog box.