4 Replies Latest reply: Aug 4, 2013 6:58 PM by Howard Hoffman RSS

    Order of effects

    Howard Hoffman Community Member

      When effects are applied, the order is sometimes important.  This can be controlled in effect controls panel.

       

      However, there seems to be no way to control built-in effect such as Motion.  For example, I'd want to change scaling after certain effects are applied.  There seems to be no way to do that.

       

      Any suggestions (other than creating a sequence)?

       

      Thanks

        • 1. Re: Order of effects
          Steven L. Gotz Community Member

          Premiere Pro renders Fixed effects after any Standard effects that are applied to the clip. Standard effects are rendered in the order in which they appear, from the top down.

           

          So, in your case, scaling actually does take place after the other effects. If you wanted it the other way, then there would be a problem. Not a huge problem because instead of using Motion you could use Transform, which is just another Standard Effect which renders in order of its placement.

          • 2. Re: Order of effects
            Howard Hoffman Community Member

            This a bit puzzling.  I am using a software stablizer, which has an option to auto-fill the border with some color.  Source is 720p and sequence is 1080i.  Motion has scale set at 150%.

             

            This result in black border.  If motion is applied last, I'd expect the video has proper filled border.  Or maybe the motion does not take the result from the other effects.

            • 3. Re: Order of effects
              Steven L. Gotz Community Member

              i am not at all sure I understand.

               

              You are saying that the source, which is 720p and has a black border around it to fill up the 1080p frame, or some other color border, is scaled up with Motion and it doesn't get bigger?

               

              Edit: Perhaps third party effects render last? Try Transform instead.

              • 4. Re: Order of effects
                Howard Hoffman Community Member

                Source 720p

                Sequence 1080i

                 

                Without image stablizer, set motion scale at 150%.  It fills the screen properly.

                 

                Turn on image stablizer.  Normally, on 1080i source, the stablizer crops the image to "stablize" and fill the border with some surrounding color.  With motion scale at 150% on 720 source, the border is now just black color.  The auto-fill is not there any more.

                 

                To work around: create a 720p sequence, scale at 100%, apply stablizer.  Then add this 720p sequence to 1080i sequence, set scale at 150%. The border has proper surrounding color.