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1. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
streamthis Aug 14, 2013 10:17 AM (in response to Dalubo)Not sure what benefit importing a stereo music track as dual mono might be, but you should get better results working with stereo tracks for music.
But I have been abandoned and left on the curb at CS6, so what do I know?
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2. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
Dalubo Aug 14, 2013 10:40 AM (in response to streamthis)Thanks for your reply. Well, this used to be my broadcast routine. Especially for routing. Track 1 + 2 = Voices (original), 3 + 4 = background, VFX, 5 + 6 = Music.
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3. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
streamthis Aug 14, 2013 12:04 PM (in response to Dalubo)Oh yes, the good ole broadcast days. I remember them fondly. Not really.
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4. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
SFL46 Aug 14, 2013 2:40 PM (in response to Dalubo)Hi
Step one: edit the first mono track, insert keyframes as desired.
Step two: select that audio track and copy the clip.
Step three: select the second mono track, right click, click on PASTE ATTRIBUTES
now the second clip has the same key frames as the first.
Regarding transitions: It is my experience that if you insert the default transition using CTRL + SH + D, PrPro will place the transition on all active tracks of the proper type (audio or video)
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5. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
Jim_Simon Aug 14, 2013 3:25 PM (in response to Dalubo)I'd agree with Shooter. PP is a different program. It's probably better and easier in the long run to change your habits, rather than try to make PP work the way FCP did.
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6. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
Dalubo Aug 15, 2013 1:49 AM (in response to SFL46)Yeah ok, sounds ok to me. Thanks. I'll try. Even though I might aks Adobe: What's the point of offering a link between two clips, when there isn't any greater use? Well yes you can use it a little bit, but they didn't go all the way.
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7. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
Dalubo Aug 15, 2013 1:56 AM (in response to Jim_Simon)Oh, and yes, PP does place the transition on all active tracks. But try to exend it - you have to do it for each track individually. Again, this is only a small detail which nevertheless could be improved.
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8. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
strypesinpost Aug 15, 2013 5:11 AM (in response to Dalubo)Make a feature request if you want gangable adjustments for audio effects.
https://www.adobe.com/go/wish/
Here's the deal. Best thing to do with stereo clips (music) is to import them as stereo clips, or modify>audio channels and make them stereo and edit everything in standard tracks. The audio end of Premiere is designed a little like a DAW.
Premiere has a few track types. Two of these are standard and mono. Standard, used to be called "stereo" pre-CS6, and mono is, well, mono. You can drop mono clips into a standard track and that's fine and dandy. When you drop stereo clips into a mono track, that gets down mixed to mono (or dual mono).
When you export an OMF to the audio house, things get a bit complicated. Part of the reason is because the interchange format is fairly old. Anyway, a mono clip in a standard track gets duplicated while a stereo clip in a mono track gets down mixed to mono.
So yes, best to work in standard tracks. For stereo clips, if you want isolate one of the channels, you can use the fill left/fill right effect.
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9. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
Jim_Simon Aug 15, 2013 3:54 PM (in response to Dalubo)What's the point of offering a link between two clips, when there isn't any greater use?
The 'use' is that they trim together. But what if you want different effects and keyframes on each clip? PP easilly allows that the way it currently works. If you want the same effects and keyframes on both channels of a stereo audio clip, don't break it out into two tracks.
See?
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10. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
strypesinpost Aug 15, 2013 7:41 PM (in response to Jim_Simon)Here's the thing. Premiere's audio end is designed like a DAW. And I feel that "stereo" has been quite often misused. What if you had an interview subject that is recorded on two tracks on a boom and a lapel mic? Let's say you treat that as "stereo". In doing so, the boom gets panned left, and the lapel gets panned right. Thats an insane stereo field for a mono recording. So to fix this, you'll need to add an effect or edit that on a mono track. But if you edit that "stereo" clip on a mono track, you'll need to copy that and paste it back onto a stereo track when you are exporting the omf for audio mixing, otherwise the audio mixer gets an interview clip with a lot of room tone mixed in. He won't be a very happy chappy after that.
I think there should be an option for gangable effects where you can still add keyframes to individual clips even if they are linked together, and you can manipulate transitions simultaneously on linked clips. Adding one feature does not necessarily obliterate the other. You can have it toggle with a button like "linked selection", or by having gangable audio keyframe adjustments apply to selected clips.
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12. Re: How do I add keyframes (and transitions) to two linked mono audio tracks?
Battered frog Jun 29, 2014 5:53 AM (in response to SFL46)The copy paste facility for audio keyframes is not working for me at all. Very annoying.