16 Replies Latest reply on Nov 22, 2016 11:16 AM by jackiek18362279

    Lose bleed when exporting to PDF

    Nina14Nina14

      Hi,

       

      Everytime I export my document to PDF, the area outside of my bleed stays white. And the PDF-file shows my whole image inside of the bleedmarks, even the parts that fall out of my page into the bleed in the Indesign document..
      The bleedmarks don't show up on the place they belong, but outside my image.

      I've read tons of discussions about this problem, tried every solution given, but nothing works.

       

      I'll add some printscreens to make my problem more clear.

       

      Problem.JPG


      You can see my settings above, and you can also see my bleed (red line). On the printscreen below you can see it placed everything inside of my bleedmarks.

       

      Problem1.JPG

       

      I'm getting a bit desperate right now. Can someone please help me? Thanks a lot!

        • 1. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
          John Mensinger Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Bleed marks should appear at the edge of the bleed, according to the bleed values assigned to the document. If you're looking for marks that are exceeded by your bleeds, (marking the trim size), you want Crop marks.

          • 2. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
            MW Design Level 4

            In the document set up, are bleeds set? In the export options, uncheck use document bleeds--5 mm is filled in already. Try that.

             

            Mike

            • 3. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
              John Mensinger Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              The 2nd screen shot shows the correct result for the settings shown in the 1st screen shot. Nina is selecting bleed marks, and expecting crop marks.

              • 4. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                Sandee Cohen Adobe Community Professional

                The way you have your document set up, you have a bleed and no objects/images extend past the bleed. Therefore there shouldn't be anything outside the bleed.  The way you have your PDF options set up, you have only bleed marks indicated. Therefore when you open the PDF you see the Bleed marks and the images extending into them.  This is exactly what a bleed is supposed to do.  I think you are confused because you don't see the crop marks which would show how the images extend out of the trim into the bleed.  But that's because you haven't checked Crop Marks in the PDF output.  Everything is working as designed.

                • 5. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                  Nina14Nina14 Level 1

                  Are you sure?
                  Because when I set my view to overprint preview, parts are cut of.

                  These parts will not be cut off in the PDF-file. Don't know if it's clear what I mean..

                  problem2.JPG

                  Also, I've done this before and then it all looked the way I wanted to. You can see this below. These are bleed marks, not crop marks.

                  problem3.JPG

                  • 6. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                    John Mensinger Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    Well again, the first screen shot is exactly what I'd expect, based on the previous ones. The cut-off is consistent with the edge of your page; shown in the very first shot in the thread.

                     

                    The second screen shot in post #5: If those are bleed marks, then your graphics extend beyond the bleed.

                     

                    Bleed marks appear at the extent of the bleed.

                     

                    Crop marks appear at the extent of the page.

                     

                    Turn them both on and see.

                    • 7. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                      MW Design Level 4

                      Oops. Missed the missing check mark on the crop marks. Thanks, John.

                       

                      Mike

                      • 8. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                        Dave Merchant MVP & Adobe Community Professional

                        It's all working properly, but your document is set up wrong.

                         

                        In your first screenshot you have three visible boxes. The outer one (red) is the bleed box, which shows the limit for page objects that have to print right up to the edge of the paper. The bleed area gives the printer some leeway in their cutting machine. The middle one (black) is the page box, which is where the paper will be cut if the machine is working perfectly. The inner one (magenta) is the margin area as defined by your layout options, and should indicate the area where your non-bled page content can go (text, etc.) so it's not too close to the knife.

                         

                        • Crop marks align with the corners of the page box, as they show where the paper will be cut or trimmed. You have never turned these on, but for 99% of print jobs where one page is printed on one sheet of paper, those are what people want to see. When you activate preview mode in InDesign it's showing you the trimmed page - i.e. the black box.
                        • Bleed marks align with the corners of the bleed box, and are used for imposition. There should never be anything of value outside the bleed box, so a printer can crop to the bleed box when arranging multiple pages onto a single sheet. That's all anyone uses them for these days.

                         

                        In your case you've constructed the page using the bleed box as the edge of the 'live' design, which is wrong. Look at the top of the page - that black line above the title and corner photos will never appear in the printed version as it's outside of the page box. It's why in the preview mode you're complaining that "parts are cut off". You need to rescale the entire page to fit inside the BLACK page box, then extend the elements around the edge of the page so they reach as far as the red bleed box.

                         

                         

                        p.s. Remember you can turn on visible page boxes in Acrobat too.

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                        • 9. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                          Nina14Nina14 Level 1

                          Thank you all a lot! I think I'm slowly starting to get it.

                          • 10. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                            Nina14Nina14 Level 1

                            Still one question,

                            John you said:

                            The second screen shot in post #5: If those are bleed marks, then your graphics extend beyond the bleed.

                             

                            But even when I extend my image beyond the bleed, it doesn't show in my PDF document.

                             

                            (I'm starting to feel a little dumb)

                            • 11. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                              Sandee Cohen Adobe Community Professional

                              It won't ever extend beyond the bleed. The bleed is where it cuts off.  Are you coming from a QuarkXPress background? That program does extend art beyond the bleed which makes print shops angry because it's a waste of paper and ink.

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                              • 12. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                                Nina14Nina14 Level 1

                                Okay, okay. I get it now. I actually come from no background. I'm only InDesigning for one year now, so stil a lottttt to learn.

                                • 13. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                                  Sandee Cohen Adobe Community Professional

                                  May I suggest for anyone coming into layout production without a good background to get my book, From Design Into Print.  It's the book I wish I had had when I first started. You'll learn everything about bleeds, trims, swatches, resolution, etc. etc.  http://www.amazon.com/From-Design-Into-Print-Professional/dp/032149220X

                                  • 14. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                                    John Mensinger Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                    Nina14Nina14 wrote:

                                     

                                    Still one question,

                                    John you said:

                                    The second screen shot in post #5: If those are bleed marks, then your graphics extend beyond the bleed.

                                     

                                    Yes, my statement was conditional; "if those are bleed marks..."

                                     

                                    They aren't.

                                    • 15. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                                      Ellis home Level 4

                                      A little late to the party here. But, for your peace of mind, in Acrobat set Preferences/Page Display/Page Content and Information/Show Art, trim, & bleed boxes, and you'll be able to see what everybody is talking about here.

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                                      • 16. Re: Lose bleed when exporting to PDF
                                        jackiek18362279

                                        Your bleed marks are there, but when exporting, make sure you click the box "Use Document Bleed Settings". The default setting is an unchecked box which will export the doc without the bleed marks you created in the source file. Hope this answers your question!