13 Replies Latest reply on Aug 18, 2013 3:53 PM by A.T. Romano

    Why does PE not find AVI codec?

    scyllabub

      I have just installed the trial of Premiere Elements, hoping that it will be more accurate and powerful than the free video editor I currently use.  To my dismay it cannot display the avi video recording (screen capture) that my free editor has no problem with, it plays sound only.

       

      I've read about the chewing gum and am completely gunged up with it.  I must have the right codecs installed because my current video editor has no problem and I can play the files in any number of media players.

       

      Do I have to convert every avi file before asking PE to handle it?  I "work" against the clock, all I want is an effective cutter and joiner with fade transitions.

        • 1. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
          the_wine_snob Level 9

          AVI is not a CODEC. It is a format. It can contain many different CODEC's, and hence the confusion by many.

           

          What is the actual CODEC used by your video screen-capture program? That is what will be important.

           

          See this article for more info on AVI (and other) files: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037?tstart=0

           

          There are some links to utilities, that can peek inside the AVI wrapper. If you give us that info, someone can direct you.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
            the_wine_snob Level 9

            This article has some links to various threads, and articles, on some popular video screen-cap programs, and how to handle their output: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2324919#2324919

             

            Good luck,

             

            Hunt

            • 3. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
              A.T. Romano Level 7

              scyllabub

               

              Besides the video and audio compression for your video file with the .avi file extension, what program are you using to get this screen captured video?

               

              And, what choices does that program give for capture and export other than this .avi file?

               

              Thanks.

               

              ATR

              • 4. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                scyllabub Level 1

                I use Debut Video Capture and it offers the following formats:

                 

                http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/satissa/PCs%20AV%20etc/2013-08-1808_44_41-AdobeCommunity_WhydoesPEnotfindAVIcodec__zps05c8c78b.jpg

                 

                I also use VLC to record the stream (of this particular cam), it uses ASF - however I cannot embed date/time with VLC so it's just a backup in case of screen-freezes.

                 

                I wouldn't use WMV or MKV because they're too "heavy", I need to upload clips to YouTube quickly.  AVI is a compromise.  (If I used FLV the editor would convert it anyway before uploading to YouTube so it would not save a stage in the process.)

                 

                I noticed the PE said that MOV (?) would require QuickTime to be installed.  I'd rather not clutter up my system with programs that I wouldn't use.

                 

                I'm working with low quality wildlife webcams.

                 

                Bill, sorry - my title was an ill-advised compression, I meant "Why does PE not find the codec required for my AVI recording (when it has to be on my hard drive somewhere as other programs are using it)?"

                 

                I obviously haven't the faintest idea what I'm doing, and I warn you, I am an "old dog".

                • 5. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                  Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

                  Please open your AVI file in a program like G Spot or Media Info (free downloads) and post the resolution, frame rate and audio and video codecs the program lists for the file.

                  • 6. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                    scyllabub Level 1

                    Is the information you need here?

                     

                    http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/satissa/PCs%20AV%20etc/GSpotanalysisofPrecisionavifile_zps3726e5d8.jpg

                    • 7. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                      scyllabub Level 1

                      Oh heck, I Googled "GSpot Guide" to save me leaving this page...

                       

                      (Of course I should have opened link in new tab, can't think why I didn't.)

                       

                      BTW, PE doesn't seem to open VLC's asf recordings at all.

                      • 8. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                        scyllabub Level 1

                        UPDATE - I've just recorded a short clip in MP4 and PE is playing it. 

                         

                        There's no sound but I had to find a cam with activity on it quickly, this cam may not have sound for all I know.

                         

                        I wouldn't be a problem for me to change from AVI to MP4 (I don't think).

                        • 9. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                          A.T. Romano Level 7

                          scyllabub

                           

                          Thanks for the follow up. Your screenshot was very help and describes what you have as:

                           

                          AVCHD (MPEG4 AVC/H.264) video compression (classed as AVCHD-LITE because frame size does not represent 1920 x 1080 display).

                          MP3 (MPEG 1 Layer 3) audio compression

                          and those wrapped with the .avi format

                           

                          All that is characterized by the frame size 600 x 380 (square pixels).

                           

                          All that being said...

                           

                          Try the .mp4 choice even with the AVCHD codec (alternatively .mov). But, install QuickTime (latest version).

                           

                          My fuzzy recollection is that AVCHD.avi  is a problem for Premiere Elements.  As for QuickTime, it is a Premiere Elements requirement. So, it will do more than just allow you to work with this specific project.

                           

                           

                          But, what you could try with what you have (AVCHD.avi) is to rename just the file extension of the file

                          .avi to .m2t

                          or

                          .avi to .mts

                          or

                          .avi to .m2ts

                          or

                          .avi to .mov

                          or

                          .avi to .mp4

                           

                          But do install the latest version of QuickTime.

                           

                          You have what I consider an atypical video (atypical in what Premiere Elements offers in the way of project presets, looks more like 16:9 than anything else. Where are you going export wise with this footage. Consider:

                           

                          1. Setting Premiere Elements 11 project preset manually (assuming that is what you have)

                          NTSC

                          AVCHD

                          AVCHD-LITE

                          720p30

                           

                          To set project preset manually,

                          File Menu/New/Project

                          NTSC

                          AVCHD

                          AVCHD-LITE

                          720p30

                          Make sure to put a check mark next to "Force Selected Project Setting on This Project" before you exit the new project dialog.

                           

                          Then, import your file via Add Media/Files and Folders/ and into Project Assets from where you drag your file to Expert workspace Timeline.

                           

                          A major goal in setting this project preset is to direct the project to set up the correct space in the Edit Mode Monitor for editing purposes.

                           

                          More later.

                           

                          Please do not hesitate to ask for clarification on anything that I have written.

                           

                          Thanks.

                           

                          ATR

                          • 10. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                            scyllabub Level 1

                            AVI > MP4 = This type of file is not supported, or the required codec is not installed.  (However, it can handle recordings made in mp4, that's a plus.)

                             

                            AVI > MOV = ditto

                             

                            AVI > M2T = The importer reported a generic error.

                             

                            AVI > MTS = ditto

                             

                            AVI > M2TS = ditto

                             

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                            I've installed Quicktime

                             

                            =========

                             

                            I see that there is a feature in PE that would encourage me to stop crying and get on with learning - it would allow me to upload an all-night recording of my barn owls in FF.

                             

                            But I can't even get the hang of the basic cutting and joining  yet.

                             

                            =========

                             

                            Probably nothing I produce is standard 16:9 or 4:3, because I often stretch the frame downwards a little to prevent my timeline encroaching too much onto the nests.  For example:

                             

                            http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/satissa/Osprey%202013/Osplets%202013/2013-07-2706_56_48-_zpsb62661b5.jpg

                             

                            And the cam "outputs" are different shapes and sizes, this is a download via VLC in asf:

                             

                            http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y40/satissa/Owls/Cornish%20Barn%20Owls%202013/2013-08-0608_26_12-Cornishbarnowlletstussleoverprey05082013evening-TheBarnOwlTrust_zpsdf1950c9.jpg

                            • 11. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                              A.T. Romano Level 7

                              scyllabub

                               

                              Sounds like progress.

                               

                              Can I assume that you were able to import and use your AVCHD.mp4 after you downloaded and installed the QuickTime (latest version).

                               

                              So far I do not think you mentioned the version of Premiere Elements that you are using. I mention this especially since AVCHD is not supported by Premiere Elements until Premiere Elements 7. So, if you had had version 4, that could have been a factor.

                               

                              Some thoughts

                               

                              1. Project Preset should match properties of source media so that the program is directed by that to present the correct space in the Edit Mode Monitor for editing purposes.

                               

                              2. Scaling of Timeline content to fit the space in the Edit Mode Monitor is possible

                              a. Motion Panel/Scale property

                              or

                              b. Clicking on monitor to get image's bounding box and dragging on handles of the bounding box

                               

                              When I purchased my first Elements product, my first thoughts included "What have you gotten yourself into?" The learning curve gets easier and easier to navigate when you start with exploration, experimentation, and asking a lot of questions on things that seem to defy navigating.

                               

                              We look forward to your progress. You will do well.

                               

                              ATR

                              • 12. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                                scyllabub Level 1

                                Version = download of trial from Adobe site yesterday.  The only editors I've used before are Freemake Video Converter (primarily a converter, as you'd expect, but it could be a brilliant basic editor if they'd fix the faults that creep in every time they add conversion for yet another new gadget/format) and Machete.  Both very simple and intuitive.

                                 

                                It handled mp4 "straight out of the box", ie, before installing Quicktime.

                                 

                                I need time in which there's nothing else going on but am going to have to dip in and out, which is not the way I learn - I need immersion 

                                 

                                I have looked briefly at a couple of tutorials and will pay them more attention soon.

                                 

                                Thank you

                                • 13. Re: Why does PE not find AVI codec?
                                  A.T. Romano Level 7

                                  scyllabub

                                   

                                  Please consider use life preservers in your immersion process if and when you need us.

                                   

                                  I agree distractions make the learning curve ever that much more slippery.

                                   

                                  Best wishes and looking forward to learning of your progress when you have the time.

                                   

                                  Thanks.

                                   

                                  ATR