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In a case like this you have at least two good options.
The first is to set up as facing pages, adding 3 mm to the page width and the inside margin values, set bleed only for top, bottom and outside, and add a slug area large enough to hold manually drawn crop marks. Add guides to represent the page edge at the gutter and your manual crop marks on the master. Export using document bleed settings and include the slug area, but don't add the automatic crops.
The second would be to set up as facing pages at the trim size with the normal margin and bleed all around, then when you are ready to output and need to adjust bleeds at the gutter split the spreads (see InDesignSecrets » Blog Archive » Breaking Pages Apart to Bleed Off a Spine and there's a script in the comments). You can do the breaking apart at any point, but if you want to design as spreads it easier to wait as long as possible.
Thank you - was leaning more toward the second option, thanks for that link, it's helpful. I had not thought of splitting the spreads, was thinking more along the lines of changing the setup from facing pages to individual pages and then manually adjusting all the bleed.
Unless you have a completely symmetrical layout based on a single-page master, switching from facing to non-facing will destroy the document as all the pages will bcome right-hand pages and use that half or the master page.
Of course you're correct slipped my mind! Thanks for that link then, think I will try that.
If you use anything that will span the whole spread, be careful when you split the spread as the item will be anchored to one page or the other (probably the left page), and will stay on that page leaving the right one without.
And you can fix it by copying and then pasting in place on the other page.
I'm interested in this. From what I know about wiro-bound, there is no bleed into the wires. There's always a white area there.
Wouldn't just creating the page with bleeds on top, outside, and bottom, without a bleed on the inside work?
Graphics on the inside would extend to the edge of the page, but not extend into the wires.
Someone who knows help me out?
Why not bleed into the wires? It doesn't need to be blank for binding and if you have coor all the way up to them it's less distracting to run it in. I don't think I'd design wiith cross-overs, though.
Thanks Peter -
I won't be designing with any items that go across the spread, as I don't think that would look good with the binding. But thanks for that, if I was, I would chop it in half (have learnt by being burnt before!)
Sandree - no reason to have a white area where the binding is. So long as you ensure to keep text and important graphics well away from the wire area, I think looks better if the background extends right to the edge.
Thank you - was leaning more toward the second option, thanks for that link, it's helpful.
I won't be designing with any items that go across the spread,
Normal facing pages without any adjustments handle crossover object's bleeds correctly—you don't have to split an image. It's objects that stop at the gutter that don't bleed correctly.
I'm not sure you can guarantee that the split pages script couldn't break under some conditions, so it seems like manually adding an interior bleed is safer if there are no crossovers.