36 Replies Latest reply on Apr 6, 2016 7:31 AM by pauland

    When will Flash Builder 5 be released?

    whatkindisthis Level 1

      When will Flash Builder 5 be released?

        • 1. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
          gmarkowski Level 1

          +1 for the question

           

          Hey Adobe, any plans for next Flash Builder? 4.8? 5.0?

          • 2. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
            Intoxo Pox

            Inquiring minds want to know!

            • 3. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
              mjfernandes

              Hope this was true flash builder 5, but I think no.  

              • 5. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                pauland Level 4

                Do you really think Adobe has any interest in Flex anymore?

                • 6. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                  jmichas

                  I think this is ridiculous, cant Adobe post some sort of FB roadmap (if one exists) and let those of us using flex know whether there will be tools coming. If FB is dead then I might as well stop developing in it. I can believe the entire product line for flash is geared around games. Some of us out here actually make applications for business and not entertainment.

                   

                  Its horrible that adobe's move to open source flex has basically dropped the bottom out of the flex community. Frameworks like parsley, mate, etc. have all been abandoned since there is really no clear direction for the technology.

                   

                  I pay adobe for the creative cloud subscription and I want to know whether the app I live in will be alive in the future. If not I will give up on my adobe subscription, I can live without photoshop, illustrator and fireworks. Then my money is probably better spent with Xamarin or something like that where I can develop in C# anyway since all my backend stuff is MS stack technology.

                   

                  I for one have been involved in Flash developement since the days of Future Splash Animator when macromedia bought it and made it Flash v1. Its a shame to give up on a platform with so many current features and so much potential.

                   

                  Adobe, let us know.

                   

                  Maybe we can get adobe to open source the FB IDE code.

                  • 7. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                    Nicolas Dion-Bouchard Level 1

                    Any update on this? Can we get some sort of a roadmap or something? Should we be moving to other products (FDT, FlashDevelop)? I prefer Flash Builder but it lacks features and stability. It's not perfect but it does the job. What's next Adobe?

                    • 8. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                      XIDA.de Level 1

                      Maybe Adobe will abandon Flash Builder in the future. They updated all product names to "CC" like "Photoshop CC" but Flash Builder still has a number in the name. At least it seems like they don't care alot about this product.

                      • 9. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                        Ulimetic Level 1

                        Shameless bump ?

                        • 10. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                          olegkon Level 1

                          Agree. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems Flex is practically dead at Adobe.

                          Killing Flash VM for Android was a good indication.

                          I wish to be wrong here...  :-(

                           

                          So lets switch to IntelliJ Idea for Flex.

                          It is not worse than FB4.7, and is actively getting developed.

                          See: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/flex_ide.html

                           

                          Has decent support for HTML5 too (but check their WebStorm if you are really into JavaScript..)

                           

                           

                          Thank you,

                          Oleg.

                          • 11. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                            SourceSkyBoxer Level 1

                            Good idea, i want work on Flash Builder 5

                             

                            PS: Suggestion for mossed components since 2004 by Macromedia Inc.

                            Very old components from Flash MX 2004 / Flash 8 we missed there.

                            Flex SDK sees **** because xml-list for menu and it sometimes get error like menu doesn't load xml.

                            I knew about good functions by menu components from MX 2004 / 8 like thios

                            <instance> is menu component:

                             

                            package

                            {

                              // Convert from old component by Macromedia into AS3

                              import components.Menu;

                              import components.MenuItem; // Idea by SourceSkyBoxer

                             

                             

                              import flash.Display.Sprite;

                              import flash.events.MouseEvent;

                             

                             

                              public class MainApp extends Sprite

                              {

                              private var menu:Menu;

                              private var fileItem:MenuItem;

                              private var closeItem:MenuItem;

                             

                             

                              public function MainApp()

                              {

                              menu = new Menu();

                              menu.addItem(fileItem);

                              menu.x = menu.y = 10;

                              this.addChild(menu);

                             

                              fileItem = new MenuItem();

                              fileItem.label = "File";

                              newItem.addItem(closeItem)

                             

                             

                              closeItem = new MenuItem();

                              closeItem.label = "Close an application!";

                              closeItem.addEventListener(MouseEvent.CLICK, onClickCLose);

                              }

                             

                             

                              private function onClickCLose(mev:MouseEvent):void

                              {

                              // Something function for handler

                              }

                              }

                            }

                             

                            PS: I really missed Menu Component because MouseEvent.RightCLick / MouseEvent.CONTEXT_MENU are available since Flash Player 9. I am getting crazy because Menu Component from Flash Pro 9, 10, 11 and 12 haven't yet. Now Flex SDK has MouseEvent.CONTEXT_MENU here and i have tested Menu from Flex Component ( Flex SDK 3.6.0a ) = It works fine like i have created example desktop into Flash Player 11

                            816804-PIC.png

                            Build by Flex SDK 4.9.11 with MX Version.

                             

                            But i want go back Flash Pro CS5.5 / Flash Pro CS6. - Did you develop any minimal components for Pure AS3?

                            And i have tested with Aspiere Component uiMenu and it works fine, too with Away 3D under Flash Builder 4.5

                            PS: Aspire Components has faked skins like Windows 2k, XP and Vista Skins

                            816805-PIC.png

                            816806-PIC.png

                            There images are Flash Player 12, Aspire Component UI by Ghostwire with Away3D 4.1.6

                            But Aspire Component sees like Flex Components But they won't work with Away 3D - View3D inside uiWindow was hidden.

                             

                            For future with Flash Player 13/14 looks like accessed hidden contextmenu like Qooxdoo Frameworks. I want to hide with Flash Player's Contextmenu.

                            Application's Container should to set to false without contextmenu. = No contextmenu? If they like this.... Thanks for support

                            • 12. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                              Pother Level 1

                              Don't hold your breathe on Adobe...

                              Hopefully they'll keep making a "profit" on Flash Professional vs. the "expense" they put into Flash Player and AIR...

                              ...otherwise the bean counters will most likely orphan Flash completely.

                               

                              If Adobe wanted to make money with Flex and Flash... all they had to do was copy the Microsoft model for their development tools... and stand up for the quality of the Flash/Flex technology vs. the crap-that-is-HTML5.

                               

                              Instead they started with Flex 1 (or was it 2?) selling at $12,000 a seat... and aimed only for Enterprise level developers.

                              And then ultimately by 4.x caved to Steve Jobs (who was threatened by Flash actually making Steve's AppStore unnecessary), and the UX-idealists (who think reinventing the wheel every year for SXSW is productive).

                               

                              And Adobe has devoted so much of their developer "expense" on reinventing the wheel... and there seem to be many people outside who also think rebuilding EVERYTHING in Javascript is the way to go.

                               

                              When someone replaces Flash Professional with a equivalent quality tool that codes in Javascript and outputs SVG (or whatever HTML5 considers "pure") files...

                              AND when those files can run in all the web-browsers WITHOUT a plug-in as fast and well as FlashPlayer (because that's what the idealists demanded)...

                              THEN maybe I'll believe the whole ridiculous effort was worth it.

                               

                              FlashBuilder 4.8 or 5.0... from Adobe...  I expect the resurrection of Steve Jobs as an HTML5 web-app will happen first.

                              • 13. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                jmichas Level 1

                                Pother, I wish this was stackoverflow so I could give you +1 for best FB rant ever, hilarious.

                                Who let you in my head to steal my thoughts anyway?

                                 

                                The convoluted Adobe product strategy couldn't have been put any better, I miss Macromedia.

                                • 14. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                  Wingnow Level 1

                                  Not answered? But everyone here definitely want one.

                                  • 15. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                    gperry91 Level 1

                                    Can we PLEASE get an update on this? 4.7 was released over 2 years ago...

                                    • 16. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                      valopaint

                                      I cannot understand how is it possible this so obvious advanced development product as Flash with conjunction with Flash Builder to be abandoned!

                                      It is more than stupidity rather than logical decision!!!

                                      Even when the opponents of Flash caught CPU in their left hand are carrying about the mystic CPU load will admit :

                                      The Flash is Supreme for the New Digital FX Generation!

                                      So, people,

                                      let come together!

                                      Let be united!

                                      And if Adobe will acts like a blind men let give to us the Flash/Flex community the full open source of this ultimate irreplaceable products and we will do the impossible - To bring the glory of it!

                                      • 17. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                        brainyBohannan

                                        Adobe has completely abandoned Flex/Flash community. Flash builder 4.7 doesn't have the design view for flex. And there has not been any update on Flash Builder for past 2 to 3 years. Steve Jobs, did what he does, but Adobe stopped believing in this powerful technology, due to which is dying now.

                                        • 18. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                          Nicolas Dion-Bouchard Level 1

                                          What a comment! Seriously? First, Adobe did not "abandoned" Flex/Flash, they gave Flex to the open community. Second, Flash is not part of that deal since they still develop Flash Pro and are still actively developing Flash Player and AIR for desktop and mobiles (AIR). So, we know that there is no other version of FB coming with Flex, fine. But the question here is about Flash Builder for ActionScript development. Flash Pro is fine but is not intended for big coding project, more for animation and illustration. Flash Builder is (was) the product of choice for that end and I think it still have some place in the developers community as a new version would be great for all of them (me included).

                                          • 19. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                            yonnyz48244733

                                            This is indeed ridiculous... Why aren't Adobe saying anything about Flash Builder....If they're releasing new versions of flash pro, and updating the AIR runtime, why aren't they saying anything? How else are we supposed to build large scale projects? Whay isn't there a CC version of FB? Why aren't you releasing some kind of roadmap?  Adobe- you guys are a joke.

                                            • 20. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                              gmarkowski Level 1

                                              Let's face it, the new version will never be available. If you are not happy with Flash Builder 4.7, try IntelliJ IDEA.

                                              • 21. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                Nicolas Dion-Bouchard Level 1

                                                Interesting. You can build AIR applications and swf files with IntelliJ IDEA? I did quick research and it seems that you can code JavaScript and web stuff but I saw no sign of AS3 at all...

                                                • 22. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                  Xpius Sr. Developer Level 1

                                                  ADOBE?????????????? Your customers would really like answers! Are you still supporting Flash Builder? Will there be a newer Flash Builder? Or do you guys not give a damn anymore? The reason i bought my subscription was not for the "art" programs like Photoshop, etc. I bought my subscription for Flash Builder. So i'm paying $50 a month for a program that you guys don't even support anymore??? What a waste of money! Adobe seems to be a company that doesn't care about their customers!

                                                  • 23. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                    OMA2k Level 1

                                                    You can also use FDT, which is the most similar to Flash Builder you will get.

                                                    • 24. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                      FlashFix14 Level 1

                                                      I just got a subscription for Flash Builder and would like to know if any update is coming ?

                                                       

                                                      I mean Adobe used to be better now it seem's they are not even answering easy questions.
                                                      Adobe should update Flash Builder and have export to PS4 , Xbox1 and Wii U to take back the Gaming industry.

                                                       

                                                      It would be a smart move because I am thinking to switching to Unity because of all the exports.

                                                      I love AS3 why is nothing happening ? HTML5 is not good ! You need to wrtie CSS HTML Javascript all very it's depressing because you know AS3 can do it all....

                                                       

                                                      Adobe bought Flash for Billion's was king of the web for a decade, it even got upgraded.
                                                      Air came out for desktop and mobile APP's. Now they want to focus more on HTML5. Flash get's burned for a lesser and older technology plus the performance is not good.

                                                       

                                                      I wish I could run the place, I would turn it great again with a better focus

                                                      • 25. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                        Xpius Sr. Developer Level 1

                                                        I completely agree with you. They need to just change the name from Flash Builder and make it Air Builder CC. Adobe seems like they're abandoning the flash community. I truly hope I'm wrong!

                                                        • 26. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                          zandwacht Level 1

                                                          I wept as I just uninstalled Flash Builder. We had some great times together, but I had to switch careers as it slowly withered.

                                                           

                                                          Looking at how Fireworks and Director were left to die, I wouldn't could count on an official announcement, rather a slow painful dead.

                                                          • 27. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                            -BoNzO-

                                                            Wow, stop being so delusional... Technologies come and go, Flex's time was like 5 years ago... It's a completely dead technology. Flash Builder wasn't even working properly when Flex was in its prime. Time to learn something new, move on.

                                                            HTML/CSS/JS (or the various techs that can transpile to it like Typescript, Elm, etc) is more productive than Flex, work on mobiles and can run circles around Flex in terms of performance (especially flex 4 and its stupidly heavy skin system)

                                                             

                                                            Don't wait for an answer from Adobe... They still try to sell director ( Adobe Director ) but it doesn't mean you should develop things with it. Make your own educated choices instead.

                                                            • 28. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                              gperry91 Level 1

                                                              There is still a large AS3 developer base, which has always dwarfed Flex. Personally, IntelliJ is a great IDE for AIR development, and I left Flash Builder in the dust a couple of years ago. Still, it's unfortunate.

                                                              • 29. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                                Pother Level 1

                                                                Well here we are in December 2015, and "Flash Professional" is slated to become "Animate CC" early 2016.

                                                                So all that work to reinvent the wheel... and they move "Edge"'s features into "Flash".

                                                                 

                                                                Probably in the future when we get a JavaScript graphical plugin engine to accelerate and make consistent graphical content across the STILL inconsistent web browsers, then Adobe will be in the perfect position to come out with a new file extension called AAN  (Adobe ANimate)... seeing as (ShockWaveFlash) will no longer be "politically correct".

                                                                 

                                                                And aren't we all just loving the explosion of HTML5 graphical interface creativity that we've been seeing the past 4 years...

                                                                ...gotta love being able to do all those new fangled "rectangular button press" areas on web pages.

                                                                 

                                                                Oh and Google did a great job contorting JavaScript into making all the bits of its "Code.org" to teach children how to code.

                                                                I wonder how long it would take someone new to start making something equally as good as those programmers at Google...

                                                                For that matter, I wonder how many man-woman-pick-your-gender-hours Google spent on that site... I'm sure it was much "faster" than what someone used to do the same with "Flash" technology 5 years ago...?

                                                                 

                                                                Oh yeah, this thread was about Flash Builder...

                                                                Well don't worry... dBase came back after decades... its now up to version 14.

                                                                Maybe IF the Apache project keeps Flex on life-support, some future Adobe board will think... HMM... maybe now is a good time to release Adobe AIR Builder 5.

                                                                 

                                                                Anyways...

                                                                When JJ Abrams re-invents and shows people programming LCARS interfaces on the next new Enterprise... I'm sure we'll be seeing their fingers flying as they type in all that JavaScript, flip over to their CSS to handle "some" events, then back to their JS file links in their base HTML files, and all their brilliant hacking to add something new into their LCARS.js framework.  Of course Daystrom probably programmed the ships computer in Node.js... or did he use Hadoop?  

                                                                It certainly won't be done with any future Flash/Flex technology.

                                                                 

                                                                Enough of this... I have to get back to my NON-Flash-based game of SimCity BuildIT that drains the battery on my iPhone faster than Steve Jobs sucked the backbone out of Adobe's management.

                                                                • 30. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                                  pauland Level 4

                                                                  Fortunately, we aren't bitter about these developments at all, but looking forward to a new dawn rising one the horizon..

                                                                   

                                                                  No point looking back.

                                                                  • 31. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                                    Murilo Flesch

                                                                    The last chance to release a replacement for Flash Builder is now!

                                                                    Please adobe !

                                                                    Do not miss this moment!

                                                                    It will be the last chance to make unbeatable development environment in adobe air

                                                                    • 32. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                                      eduardo12fox Level 1

                                                                      I Hope that Adobe free design view for Flash builder 4.7 or 4.8 release. The adobe could hear our cry

                                                                      • 34. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                                        pauland Level 4

                                                                        Forget it. Flash Builder 5, or 4.8 is never going to happen. Design View is gone, as is Flash Builder.

                                                                         

                                                                        Move on.

                                                                        • 35. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                                          Murilo Flesch Level 1

                                                                          We will continue to ask someone to answer !

                                                                          I thought that Adobe was improving communication with your community but still the same old thing .

                                                                          • 36. Re: When will Flash Builder 5 be released?
                                                                            pauland Level 4

                                                                            Adobe has no incentive to answer and flash (AS3) based development is not a priority for Adobe, or most developers.