7 Replies Latest reply on Aug 28, 2013 4:01 PM by Rallymax-forum

    Need to edit/convert XDCAM HD422 in .mov wrapper on PC

    wlitwa

      From what I've been able to deduce, wrapping XDCAM HD422 in a mov only works on a Mac. I need to be able to edit or convert it in Premiere Pro on a PC. I have a mac laptop available if that needs to be what converts, though I'd rather a solution on the PC (the laptop is old).

       

      I've seen links to Calibrated{Q} XD Decode, but can anyone confirm this works? I'd rather a free solution since there are so many free convertors like MPEG Streamclip and ffmpeg.

       

      Codec: XDCAM HD422 1080p24 (50 Mb/s)

      Wrapper: .mov

       

      Premiere Pro = "Codec missing or unavailable."

       

      Thanks.

        • 1. Re: Need to edit/convert XDCAM HD422 in .mov wrapper on PC
          Rallymax-forum Level 3

          renaming to .mp4 might just work in PPro.

          otherwise use ffmpeg to re-wrap the container copying the streams.

          • 2. Re: Need to edit/convert XDCAM HD422 in .mov wrapper on PC
            wlitwa Level 1

            Wow. That actually worked. Wouldn't have thought of that. Thanks, that made my life easier. VLC will also play it. MPEG Streamclip and Adobe Media Encoder will not read the file. I haven't tried exporting from Premiere Pro yet.

             

            By the by, I'd already tried various methods of re-wrapping with ffmpeg, ffmbc, and sox, but couldn't get anything to work.

             

            Thanks again!

            • 3. Re: Need to edit/convert XDCAM HD422 in .mov wrapper on PC
              Rallymax-forum Level 3

              It's because MP4 (actually "ISO Container") is greatly based off of Apple's MOV container format.

               

              By using ".mp4" the Adobe Importer decodes the video.

              If the file extension is ".mov" Premiere sends it off to Quicktime and then it comes back to Premiere as raw frames. Thus you have to have a XDCAM HD422 quicktime decoder plugin; which you don't.

               

              'glad to help.

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              • 4. Re: Need to edit/convert XDCAM HD422 in .mov wrapper on PC
                Rallymax-forum Level 3

                AME should be able to read it if Premiere can.

                Premiere and AME use the same Importers.

                Make sure you're up to date.

                • 5. Re: Need to edit/convert XDCAM HD422 in .mov wrapper on PC
                  wlitwa Level 1

                  Very interesting. That explains a lot.

                   

                  But AME definitely does not read it. The Source preview pane displays a black area instead of the video--not only that, but it displays the square in 4:3 instead of 16:9 (the video ratio), meaning it's definitely not reading the footage. If I run it through and convert it, it transcodes the audio but not the video (it just turns out black).

                   

                  Premiere reads it just fine, audio and video. If I add the footage to a timeline and export, I can queue it into AME and it will export without problems.

                   

                  All is up to date through CC.

                   

                  As a side note, the footage gives a yellow bar when added to the timeline (something I've yet to see editing any raw footage added in Premiere), so it will take longer to edit/render.

                  • 6. Re: Need to edit/convert XDCAM HD422 in .mov wrapper on PC
                    Rallymax-forum Level 3

                    Interesting.

                    There must be a mismatch in the shipped importers.

                    If you open a DOS prompt a print out all the importers they should match...

                    More importantly for your case, there should be one called something like "ImporterXDCAM.prm"

                     

                    c:\> cd c:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC\

                    c:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CC\> dir /s import*.prm

                     

                    c:\> cd c:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Media Encoder CC\

                    c:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Media Encoder CC\> dir /s import*.prm

                     

                    I don't have a copy of CC in front of me right now otherwise I'd work out what the difference is.

                    • 7. Re: Need to edit/convert XDCAM HD422 in .mov wrapper on PC
                      wlitwa Level 1

                      There's an ImporterXDCAMHD.prm and ImporterXDCAMEX.prm. They exist in:

                      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Media Encoder CS6\Plug-ins\Common

                      C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS6\Plug-ins\Common

                       

                      Indeed, the HD prm in AME is 899,520 bytes, date modified is 9/17/2012, and the one in Premiere is 901,208 bytes, date modified is 8/20/2013.

                       

                      I tried replacing the AME prm with the one from the Premiere folder. Nothing changed. Premiere works, AME doesn't. Tried replacing the EX importer as well. No change. Odd.

                       

                      Also, odd side note, although I'm subscribed to Creative Cloud, somehow I have the programs that don't say CC after them. I didn't have another version on this computer before. I'm not sure how that happened...