28 Replies Latest reply: Sep 3, 2013 2:40 PM by the_wine_snob RSS

    Menu does not play on Windows Media

    vumadave

      Premier Elements 10.   Simple menu, 1 scene button.   Menu plays in preview, but does not show when exported to Windows Media.   Previously lots of problems getting thumbnails to be read.  In general, menus seem to be a mess.

        • 1. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
          Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

          When you play it, are you playing it from the disc or from the VIDEO_TS folder?

           

          Windows Media Player and Quicktime can sometimes skip the main menu. I'd recommend the free download VLC Player instead.

           

          And, if you're playing from your hard drive, be sure to select the option to play the VIDEO_TS folder, not an individual file.

          • 2. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
            A.T. Romano Community Member

            vumadave

             

            I do not get disc menus displayed before the start of a DVD-VIDEO movie when I use Windows Media Player 12 on Windows 7 64 bit as the player.

            However, Windows Media Player 12 does come with player navigation. See DVD icon (for DVD menu access) at bottom of Windows Media Player 12 interface. Used that to bring up disc menus.

            menu.jpg

             

            SG's suggestion of VLC player for your Premiere Elements DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc with menus is a good solution, since then you will get

            your disc menus displayed before the start of the movie. He brings out an important point in making sure of what you are selecting for playback.

             

            Please also check out the Premiere Elements DVD-VIDEO computer playback details for VLC and MPC-HC players in the following Premiere Elements Blu-ray computer playback blog post

            http://www.atr935.blogspot.com/2013/08/pe-blu-ray-computer-playback-and-more.html

             

            Thanks.

             

            ATR

            • 3. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
              vumadave Community Member

              Hello Steve

               

                      Thanks for responding to my issue of not getting my next pending dvd to play a simple menu.

              To answer your question:  I am playing the Windows Media version from the Video file in the Library.  (I clued out whether that’s disc or the TS folder.)

               

                  I found a site for the VLC Media player and since I could not find it, I have written them the question whether it is compatible with Windows 8.

              If it is, I will start to learn about.

               

                      Thanks, again.   I will be referring to your message until I learn what I have to learn.   I am very happy with my work and hope to share it as soon as I get the menu to play.

               

              -david lee

              • 4. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                vumadave Community Member

                ATR

                 

                       Thanks for your prompt and knowledgeable reply to my knowledge deficit how to get a simple menu to play from Premier Elements10 to Windows Media.

                 

                Sadly, the jpg file would not play on Adobe Reader or other formats, I received a message suggesting it may be corrupted.

                 

                        I went to a VLC website and could not find whether it is compatible with Windows 8.   If they reply in the positive, I will download and see what happens.

                Thanks for underscoring what Steve Grisetti wrote.

                 

                          I am very happy with the work I am about to complete and so greatly appreciate your guidance in this issue.

                 

                -david lee

                • 5. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                  vumadave Community Member

                  back again, about not getting a menu to play on Windows Media using windows 8.

                   

                  I went to two different sites, the last was downloadster.org

                  I read all of their statements.  I accepted that I would receive email from advertisers, but noticed I could request their webmaster from striking from the list.

                  But, I went to the custom installation, and unchecked 3 “optional” product mailings.

                   

                        But then I get to the final download button to see that Windows 8 is not included, even though in the beginning they wrote that it was

                   

                             ??Can I get the VLC player without signing over my computer to Cnet.   Is there a genuine open source for VLC player?

                   

                  Thanks if your are able to reply.

                   

                  -David Lee

                  • 6. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                    A.T. Romano Community Member

                    David Lee

                     

                    Give me a little more time today, next 2 hours approximately, and I will check out the VLC player and Media Player Class HD x64 specifically on Windows 8 64 bit.

                     

                    More later.

                     

                    ATR

                    • 7. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                      vumadave Community Member

                      Sorry, the dreadful guy asking about playing menus is back.

                       

                      I played my work through the VLC media player.

                       

                      No menu.

                       

                                  I would be grateful for any other suggestions.

                       

                      -david lee

                      • 8. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                        Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

                        Did you select the option to play a file or a folder?

                         

                        You must select the option to play a folder and then select the VIDEO_TS folder.

                        • 9. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                          A.T. Romano Community Member

                          David Lee

                           

                          I have a Windows 8 64 bit laptop.

                           

                          I have installed both the VLC Media Player and Media Player Classic HC on it. Did you use the links in my blog posts for the download of these players?

                           

                          Premiere Elements 11 DVD-VIDEO Standard on DVD disc plays back on the VLC Media Player or Media Player Classic HC showing automatically the disc menus before the start of the movie.

                           

                          By comparison, if I put a store purchased DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc through the same process, it plays back on each player with the disc menus displayed before the start of the movie. An interesting twist here is that with the VLC Player, I get the ONLY the disc menus displayed before the start of the movie, then the movie; whereas, with the Media Player Classic HC I get the first play (FBI message) and then the disc menus displayed before the start of the movie.

                           

                          Now, if I put a Premiere Elements 11 AVCHD DVD through the same process, it plays back movie on the Media Player Classic HC but without the disc menus displayed before the start of the movie. You need to use player navigation that I mentioned in my blog post previously cited. The VLC Player will not play the Premiere Elements 11 AVCHD DVD.

                           

                          Everything above is as I described for this type of playback as done with the players on Windows 7 64 bit.

                           

                          The Windows 8 64 bit computer only has a DVD drive, so I could not do a Blu-ray comparison there....not until I get an external Blu-ray burner.

                           

                          Is your Premiere Elements 10 DVD-VIDEO standard or widescreen?

                           

                          Please review and post all the details small or big to see if we can figure out why your Premiere Elements 10 DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc is not playing back with menus before the start of the movie. I am understanding correctly that it does play the movie?. Can you use player navigation as described in my blog post?

                           

                          We will be watching for further developments.

                           

                          Thanks.

                           

                          ATR

                          • 10. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                            A.T. Romano Community Member

                            David Lee

                             

                            I asked about the following in the reply that I just posted, so let me ask again in view of SG's post which I did not see until after I had posted mine.

                             

                            Please confirm that your present situation is that your movie plays back with the VLC player, but not with the disc menus before the start of the movie. That would put to rest SG's concern that you are not selecting the drive correctly OR offer a possible answer to what you seek.

                             

                            Looking forward to further developments.

                             

                            Thanks.

                             

                            ATR

                            • 11. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                              A.T. Romano Community Member

                              SG

                               

                              Consider

                              VLC Media Player

                              Media Menu

                              Open Disc

                              Open Media Dialog with its Disc Tab, select DVD.

                               

                              VLC.JPG

                              There is no "VIDEO_TS" choice in the Disc Device field, just the name of the drive into which the DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc is inserted.

                               

                              Just hit Play.

                               

                              ATR

                              • 12. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

                                So maybe the poster needs to confirm that he's indeed output a valid set of DVD files (and that he didn't just output an MPEG).

                                • 13. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                  A.T. Romano Community Member

                                  David Lee

                                   

                                  Here is the plan. This will give us all (you, SG, and I and all) support and justification to continue.

                                   

                                  1. Place your Premiere Elements 10 DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc in the DVD burner tray. Go to Computer and the drive. Right click the drive and click Open. Do you see an OpenDVD Folder and VIDEO_TS Folder on that disc? If yes. Then close out of there.

                                   

                                  2. Please download and install the VLC Media Player from the VLC web site using the link

                                  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

                                  You are going to download and install VLC version 2.0.8 (32 bit) even if your computer has a 64 bit operating system. This is a stable version.

                                   

                                  3. After the VLC player is installed then read my details for Premiere Elements DVD-VIDEO movie playback which are written into my blog post on the matter that I mentioned previously.

                                  http://www.atr935.blogspot.com/2013/08/pe-blu-ray-computer-playback-and-more.html

                                  When using the VLC player for your DVD-VIDEO playback, you should be getting the disc menus that you created for your project before the start of your DVD-VIDEO movie created using Share/Disc/DVD disc.

                                   

                                  Please review and then we can decide where we are and what next. Any questions or blocks along the way, please stop and let us know what is happening.

                                   

                                  Thanks.

                                   

                                  ATR

                                  • 14. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                    vumadave Community Member

                                    Steve Grisetti,

                                     

                                             Thanking you truckloads.  First, admitting my goof.  Then, trying to make up for goofing.

                                       I believe I did not explain clearly that I had used Windows Media to make a file for the computer.

                                    After reading all of your immense response, I realized I better make a dvd of this to find out.

                                             OOOPS!   The dvd is fine.   So, I learn that what one saves for the computer ain’t the same as a dvd.

                                    Did I miss that from the minimally helpful Classroom In A Book, or did they fail to mention it?

                                     

                                              Anyway, to atone for my waste of your precious time, please visit a blog I recently started.  I am using it

                                    to express my gratitude for all that went into this project I am most proud.   I have been working very hard at it

                                    and pretty soon I have to face the un-fun of trying to get people interested in wanting to watch.   If I may mention

                                    you in this blog, it would be meaningful to me.   If I may, tell me how I should address you.

                                                       http://vumadave.wordpress.com

                                     

                                                      Again, thanks !!!

                                                      David Lee

                                    • 15. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                      vumadave Community Member

                                      ATR

                                       

                                               Thanking you truckloads.  First, admitting my goof.  Then, trying to make up for goofing.

                                         I believe I did not explain clearly that I had used Windows Media to make a file for the computer.

                                      After reading all of your immense response, I realized I better make a dvd of this to find out.

                                               OOOPS!   The dvd is fine.   So, I learn that what one saves for the computer ain’t the same as a dvd.

                                      Did I miss that from the minimally helpful Classroom In A Book, or did they fail to mention it?

                                       

                                                Anyway, to atone for my waste of your precious time, please visit a blog I recently started.  I am using it

                                      to express my gratitude for all that went into this project I am most proud.   I have been working very hard at it

                                      and pretty soon I have to face the un-fun of trying to get people interested in wanting to watch.   If I may mention

                                      you in this blog, it would be meaningful to me.   If I may, tell me how I should address you.

                                                         http://vumadave.wordpress.com

                                       

                                                        Again, thanks !!!

                                                        David Lee

                                       

                                                  Still getting those thumbnails to emerge in the preview were tough (rather, impossible), I wonder if it applies or is another issue.

                                      But, I work on that for the next project.

                                      • 16. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                        A.T. Romano Community Member

                                        David Lee

                                         

                                        We are so glad that you have sorted out the issues and that you are moving forward in your projects.

                                         

                                        With Premiere Elements the only exports with menus include:

                                         

                                        DIsc Menus

                                        burn to disc DVD, DVD-VIDEO

                                        and

                                        burn to disc Blu-ray,  Blu-ray

                                        and

                                        burn to disc DVD, AVCHD

                                         

                                        Other

                                        There are no menus included with the export to file saved to the computer hard drive, with the exception of the webDVD feature which is an export to a flash file which includes menus.

                                        http://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-premiere-elements-10/create-and-share-web-dvds-/

                                         

                                        I appreciate you wanting to make a public thank you in your blog for the suggestions given, but your report of success with your video projects is more than I could ask for and want. We all have navigated that learning curve so we are grateful for the opportunity to try to make it easier for others.

                                         

                                        Continued success.

                                         

                                        ATR

                                        • 17. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                          John T Smith CommunityMVP

                                          Help-and-Tutorials page http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1275830 may help with future work

                                          • 18. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                            Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

                                            And if you want to know step by step how to use all of the tools in the program, check out my book and tutorials.

                                            http://muvipix.com/pe10.php

                                            • 19. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                              vumadave Community Member

                                              Yes, I will definitely do that.

                                               

                                              -david lee

                                              • 20. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                vumadave Community Member

                                                Thanks, I shall.

                                                 

                                                         -david lee

                                                • 21. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                  vumadave Community Member

                                                  Felix

                                                   

                                                      I will mention the blog posts that encouraged me to install VLC media

                                                  player and cc the authors..  But since then I think VLC has severely impeded

                                                  with a project

                                                  I have been working most seriously.   At the moment, I don't know how to

                                                  recover it.

                                                   

                                                       Prior to VLC, I used Adobe's Premier Elements 10 with windows 8.  Then

                                                  converting the work to Windows Media I had a brick to make my

                                                  structure.  I thought I had finally made a well-made structure even though

                                                  it was a mixture of Window Media and VLC media.  I could even make

                                                  a dvd I am thrilled.  But, now I find the VLC bricks can be saved, even

                                                  though until I shut down, every step of the way I was saving and saved as.

                                                          This time, when I try to make a back up, using Premier Elements, as

                                                  I have done many times before, I get salad that is inedible.

                                                   

                                                          Deeply troubled.  Suggestions appreciated.  I think I have to pull

                                                  the plug on VLC but fear the consequences.

                                                   

                                                              David Lee (DC)

                                                   

                                                   

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                                                  Steve Grisetti

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                                                  A.T.Roman0

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                                                  • 22. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                    Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

                                                    I know of no reason VLC Player would impede your editing. But, if it does, I suppose you can uninstall it.

                                                    • 23. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                      A.T. Romano Community Member

                                                      David Lee

                                                       

                                                      Two things to check out

                                                       

                                                      a. Please double check what VLC player you installed. There is a 32 bit version which I have and which I have been led to believe is the stable version at this time.

                                                      http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

                                                      This is the one that I have downloaded and installed for my Windows 7 and 8 64 bit computers. No problems with it or other programs on the same computers.

                                                       

                                                      There is supposed to be an experimental 64 bit beta version which is available whose stablility is still in question.

                                                      http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html

                                                       

                                                      Also, double check list of installed programs (Control Panel area) to see if any unwanted programs have been installed on your computer in the time frame of this present problem.

                                                       

                                                      The ultimate test is, as SG suggests, uninstall of the VLC player to see if the issue disappears.

                                                       

                                                      We will be watching for your results.

                                                       

                                                      Thanks.

                                                       

                                                      ATR

                                                      • 24. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                        the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                        ATR,

                                                         

                                                        My experiences mirror yours. I have VLC 32-bit on all machines, and have never had any issues with any Adobe (or CyberLink, or Magix) programs. It has proved to be a very stable, and benign player, and that is all that I use it for. One aspect of VLC (and MediaPlayer Classic), that I appreciated, is that it does not install ANY CODEC's to my system. It contains most of the non-standard ones, within itsefl. With a video-editing computer, I find that a major plus.

                                                         

                                                        However, if, for some reason, it IS getting in the way, I would uninstall it, and test completely.

                                                         

                                                        Hunt

                                                        • 25. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                          A.T. Romano Community Member

                                                          Hunt,

                                                           

                                                          To date, the only issues that I have had with VLC player were:

                                                          a. download from non VLC home web site which was associated with installation of several unwanted programs that my antivirus did a job on.

                                                          b. the converter claims for it which I have yet to work for me

                                                           

                                                          ATR

                                                          • 26. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                            the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                            In all the years that I have had VLC 32-bit on my computers, I have only used it as a "testing" player, and have never used it for any conversion. I have seen a few threads, where users had issues with files, that WERE converted in VLC. In most of those, when another conversion program was used, the issues disappeared. Now, there are probably many, many more, who have used VLC as a converter, and just never came to any of the forums, that I frequent.

                                                             

                                                            Will wait to hear of the OP's success.

                                                             

                                                            Hunt

                                                            • 27. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                              A.T. Romano Community Member

                                                              Hunt,

                                                               

                                                              We will be very pleased if we can help David Lee move forward on the video playback function of the VLC player.

                                                               

                                                              I was not suggesting his use of it for conversion, just mentioning the problems that I have ever encountered with the use of the product.

                                                               

                                                              ATR

                                                              • 28. Re: Menu does not play on Windows Media
                                                                the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                                ATR,

                                                                 

                                                                That was exactly how I interpreted your comment.

                                                                 

                                                                Hunt