18 Replies Latest reply: Sep 2, 2013 4:32 PM by BobLevine RSS

    Gartner SKU 76011 template

    Cougartoo

      I am extremely frustrated.  My daughter who is in Arizona bought Gartner 76011 tent cards for her wedding seating place cards.  I am in another state trying to design the cards and send the files to her so she can print them on her laser printer. Gartner only has a Word template and using the measurements Garnter sent me...the template I built in Adobe does not conform. We have sent a million files back and forth, but adjusting to something I can't see is tough.  She even scanned a sheet and I laid out  precisely on the llines of her scanned sheet....still no joy.

       

      To be polite, Gartner's Word template does not lend itsef to design.  Even if I wanted to use Word for a design....the template makes that difficult....it has no lines....just occasional dots and teh position of a name...no way to place a design.  There are little quote marks and no way to decern where the actual margins and edges are.  I looked to see if Avery had a template for 6 on a card tent cards...they do not.  It apperas that the Gartner Cards vary a little depending on which line you are on....so the 6 cards are not all EXACTLY the same. To make matters worse, I live at least an hour from the closest store.

       

      Does anyone have any hints or tricks.  Is there a hidden repository of templates that work with InDesign or Photoshop? Why in heven's name would  they only have unseeable Word templates.  Any insight or suggestions appreciated.

        • 1. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
          BobLevine CommunityMVP

          Why not just use the Word template?

          • 2. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
            Cougartoo Community Member

            The Word template is not visable.  It has a couple of ' ' marks ...no edges, no lines....I can't visualize the space I have to work with..  I also don't have the fine control in Word for placeing the various meal icons when the names are different lengths.  The question seems more like, why are all templates in a non-desgning program?  Word is for word processing, not layout.  It has major limitations when you try to use it for layout...add to that the fact that the template is invisble and it isn't tenable

            • 3. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
              BobLevine CommunityMVP

              Because that's what most people have available. Have you tried placing

              the Word file in InDesign? My guess is it's just a table.

              • 4. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                peter at knowhowpro Community Member

                Have you tried saving the Word template (in Word) as a PDF, then placing the PDF in an ID document on a background layer, and laying out your ID content over the background?

                 

                You may want to insert content in Word before creating the PDF, for better positioning control when you overlay ID content.

                 

                You can hide the PDF on the background layer.

                 

                 

                HTH

                 

                 

                Regards,

                 

                 

                Peter

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                Cougartoo wrote:

                 

                I am extremely frustrated.  My daughter who is in Arizona bought Gartner 76011 tent cards for her wedding seating place cards.  I am in another state trying to design the cards and send the files to her so she can print them on her laser printer. Gartner only has a Word template and using the measurements Garnter sent me...the template I built in Adobe does not conform. We have sent a million files back and forth, but adjusting to something I can't see is tough.  She even scanned a sheet and I laid out  precisely on the llines of her scanned sheet....still no joy.

                 

                To be polite, Gartner's Word template does not lend itsef to design.  Even if I wanted to use Word for a design....the template makes that difficult....it has no lines....just occasional dots and teh position of a name...no way to place a design.  There are little quote marks and no way to decern where the actual margins and edges are.  I looked to see if Avery had a template for 6 on a card tent cards...they do not.  It apperas that the Gartner Cards vary a little depending on which line you are on....so the 6 cards are not all EXACTLY the same. To make matters worse, I live at least an hour from the closest store.

                 

                Does anyone have any hints or tricks.  Is there a hidden repository of templates that work with InDesign or Photoshop? Why in heven's name would  they only have unseeable Word templates.  Any insight or suggestions appreciated.

                • 5. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                  MW Design CommunityMVP

                  Upload the template to dropbox.com or point to it with a link. Then we can advise better.

                  • 6. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                    sandeecohen CommunityMVP

                    I second Peter's suggestion.

                    • 7. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                      MW Design CommunityMVP

                      It doesn't sound like there are guidelines, assuming it is a table. A "blank" PDF isn't going to do much good unless one tweaks the Word file.

                      • 8. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                        P Spier CommunityMVP

                        Why not have your daughter mail you one of the cards?

                         

                        Keep in mind that ANY tmeplate you use is probably going to have alignment issues inthe actual printing. They get laid out according to the die-cutting, but that doesn't mean the cards will go thorugh the printer perfectly, or consistently. Allow big enough margin to accoutn for 1/8" drift from where things are supposed to be.

                        • 9. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                          sandeecohen CommunityMVP

                          Most of these documents/templates are Word tables.

                           

                          I've given them strokes in Word and then exported as PDF.

                          • 10. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                            MW Design CommunityMVP

                            @Sandee--yep, I know. Just mentioning that because if the OP simply made a PDF from the document as is, there can/will be more frustration with the project.

                             

                            The tent cards @ 8-per page are small, intended for name-only type of tent cards. Or a small logo/image/art added. They should be about 1 13/16" x 4 1/4" or so when folded, so about 3 5/8" x 4 1/4" per card down the sheet, two columns.

                             

                            From there, it is as Peter says, a matter of enough safe area that the registration of the text/element isn't an issue.

                            • 11. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                              Ellis home Community Member

                              Have you tried downloading the template from Gartner's website? That way you can print/export a sample yourself with outlines as has been suggested here. It may be easier that way.

                              I take that back. I see you have the template. Print one page with outlines: with one page selected go to Format/Borders and Shading/Grid.

                              • 12. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                                Cougartoo Community Member

                                You guys are so nice!  It's at http://www.cougarberry.com/gartnertemplate/Placecard-Template-2.doc   I  tried to just place it  in ID (missed the part about .pdf)  The problem then is that there is no left hand margin so I don't know exactly how it fits on the page....but at least I could see some layour lines, so progress is happening While I am asking questions...

                                 

                                I set my preferences in ID to inches because that is usually how I get my specs.  When it comes to setting page margins...it still comes up in pica.  How to get ALL measurements to be in inches?

                                • 13. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                                  Ellis home Community Member

                                  Edit/Preferences/Units and Increments/Ruler units. You can choose there inches.

                                  • 14. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                                    BobLevine CommunityMVP

                                    Download this and place it as your background layer.

                                     

                                    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2548785/Placecard-Template-2.pdf

                                    • 15. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                                      BobLevine CommunityMVP

                                      Oh, and when you place it, make sure to show options and choose media.

                                       

                                      That will give you the 8.5x11 PDF that you can place exactly on the page.

                                      • 16. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                                        Cougartoo Community Member

                                        Bob,

                                         

                                        Thank you.  I did as you suggested.  I am sending the .pdf off to Arizona to see if the layout works with the paper I can't see.  Thank you for your help.

                                        • 17. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                                          Cougartoo Community Member

                                          it worked!!!  I'll toast you at the wedding thank ou for your help.

                                          • 18. Re: Gartner SKU 76011 template
                                            BobLevine CommunityMVP

                                            I prefer a nice savignon blanc but feel free to toast with the beverage of your choice. <g>

                                             

                                            Glad it all worked out.