9 Replies Latest reply on Sep 8, 2013 1:43 AM by Ballroller

    Urgent info re painting imported matte problem

    Ballroller

      Hi,

       

      Just downloaded latest After Effects from Cloud.

       

      Have imported a MATTE from MochaPro then Avid then After Effects,

      Been working on a Job for ten days with 3hrs sleep a night with deadline.

       

      I am trying to paint and correct my MATTE'S in my Composition and it is

      going at a snails pace. Very very slow. No problem in Photoshop.

       

      I have like 750 frames to touch up and am running into timing problems.

       

      Any help would be grateful.

       

      Sometimes I make a stroke and nothing happens. When selecting the curser

      bounces around.

       

      Z800 x2 proc, 48 Gig Mem, 4x Quadro graphics cards ( K5000 ) in Cubix Expander 4

      plus JMR raid media drive.( 800MBs ). Win 7 Pro 64bit.

       

      I do a lot of painting in Photoshop but can not understand this issue.

      Dedicated Swap and page files on system.

       

      The MATTE in the footage view looks good.

      In the LAYER view it looks like someone has stamped all over it and is being

      skribbled all over and torn appart, really weired.

       

      Also like real lag while trying to paint, about 15sec a stroke, not right with

      a system like mine.

       

      Hopefully not my Wacom Intuios 4 tablet.

       

      Have many pro App's no issues.

       

      My first Project in After Effects and would be sad to fail for the wrong reasons.

       

      Kind regards.

        • 1. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
          Ballroller Level 1

          Hi,

           

          I have my MATTE in a layer viewer and it looks pretty good.

          As soon as I tick the RENDER box the matte self distructs.

          All sorts of skribbles and torn apart looking. Just odd.

           

          Could it be my tablet pen that's doing things that I can not see.

          Posability.

           

          Kind regards.

          • 2. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
            Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

            I wish we could help but without some screenshots and better explanation I have no idea what to suggest. I don't know what it means for a matte to self destruct. Are you using 3D layers? What was your workflow in Mocha? What information from mocha did you use?

             

            I've never had a problem using a layer as a matte so you must be doing something wrong with your workflow. Please send us a screen shot of the project with all properties revealed for the matte layer (press the u key twice with the layer selected in the timeline) and show us what the matte looks like when it is self destructiing. Also give us your composition settings and a list of any plug-ins you have attached to the matte layer.

             

            It sounds like you are very new to AE "My first Project in After Effects and would be sad to fail for the wrong reasons"

            • 3. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
              Ballroller Level 1

              Hi Rick,

               

              I think I have isolated the issue.

              For some reason my pen or in fact my mouse seem to carry on painting after I think I have stopped a stroke.

              But it looks like it is carrying on painting after lifting my pen or releasing my left mouse button.

              There seems to be an incredible amout of lag and the system is only getting the release instruction after my pen has moved off the canvas. The ink carries on flowing as such, rather bizzar due to the lag.

               

              There is like a 15 sec delay or there about when painting at time. Not right.

              As I say the MATTE in the footage view is intacked.

               

              Difficult to see when zoomed to 400%.

               

              Not sure how to fix?

               

              Kind regards.

              • 4. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
                Ballroller Level 1

                Hi,

                 

                I have just managed to recreate the issue.

                There is such a LAG in After Effects ( latest ver ) that I will do a stroke and move my pen to choose a different

                NIB size or stroke size and the stroke I made will follow the Pen of the page due to the APP's lag.

                 

                Not good at all, not sure how to deal with this.

                I have so much to do I will not sleep till monday night. Not good.

                 

                Kind regards.

                • 5. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
                  Ballroller Level 1

                  misshap_01.png

                  As one can see how the pen carries on drawing even after the stroke is made due to so much LAG in the paint

                  window.

                   

                  So when my view is enlarged to 400% I can not see what is going on outside the screen area.

                  ie. Working along the JAW area very close up.

                   

                  Kind regards.

                  • 6. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
                    Ballroller Level 1

                    Hi,

                    Layer workspace details.Notice condition of MATTE.

                    ws_mke_01.png

                    • 7. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
                      Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      It looks like you are doing roto work. If so, you are going about it the hard way. The way hard way. From the looks of your footage the CC version of AE's Rotobrush would be the right tool. It will do a much better job in about 1/10 the time.

                       

                      You can also roto in Mocha. There are several tutorials on this. Again, this is way faster than trying to paint a matte by hand.

                       

                      Using a tablet can be problematic and there are lots of posts on latency with pen tools. Make sure you have the latest drivers.

                       

                      Please explain what exactly you are trying to do and why you have chosen this method to create your matte.

                      • 8. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
                        Ballroller Level 1

                        Hi Rick,

                         

                        Yes, you are correct but the MATTE is from MochaPro.

                        Must get three hrs sleep. Will be up at 7am.

                         

                        Very grateful for your feedback and support.

                         

                        Kind regards.

                        • 9. Re: Urgent info re painting imported matte problem
                          Ballroller Level 1

                          Hi,

                           

                          I think this is an After Effects LAG issue manifesting in my tablet and mouse.

                          After Effects is very slow with any Keyframes in the timeline.

                           

                          Kind regards.