Is overprint preview turned on in Acrobat?
Good question! I never thought to go to Acrobat because because the .pdf is coming from InDesign. How/Where do I check that/set it up?
In recent versions of Acrobat, Overprint Preview is turned on when you have the Output Preview panel open (In Acrobat X or XI, choose Tools > Print Production > Output Preview).
It's also turned on automatically if you export as a PDF/X PDF file.
You can control when it's viewed in Acrobat's Preferences > Display.
Here is the path to Overprint Preview in Acrobat 9:
Edit\Preferences\Page Display\Use Overprint Preview
Once here, I saw that "Only for PDF/X Files" was selected.
I changed it to Always.
The transparent lines still do not show up.
I could not find Overprint Preview anywhere under Tools.
The only other thing is: Should I open Acrobat and then navigate to the .pdf file? I am simply clicking on the the icon in the folder. (Naah, scratch that. Just tried it and it didn't work.)
Any other thoughts?
Message was edited by: ceilr
can you post a sample page from the .indd and from the pdf so we can look at them on our systems?
I take it I can do that on Dropbox?
Just put up samples, though, not the entire doc. In fact, you could make a page with filler text and reproduce the issue, and that would be just fine.
I am feeling really brain dead! I put a jpeg and .pdf in my Dropbox folder, but I don't know how to share it with you! Oh, maybe it's this:
The good news is that the lines shows up on the jpeg, even if the resolution isn't great. (And I feel like we ought to get on the phone!)
The lines are there in the PDF, too, but the don't show until you select them and move them with the touchup object tool.
Are they in front of the text, or behind?
It would really help to see an actual page from the .indd.
Selecting, cutting and pasting again makes them visible, too.
You might need to move this to Acrobat...
I have no idea how you are able to do this. I selected the entire page in the .pdf, and the lines did not show up. Do I need to open this in Acrobat? I just don't know what to do.
Here is a link to a greatly reduced .indd doc:
Remember, it's in CS5 on a PC running Windows 7.
Thank you! I need to take a dinner break now and will be back in an hour or so.....
Well, I'm a little closer, but this is all VERY strange! The grey lines are on top of the text, yet I had to move the text out of the way to grab one that would should upon moving. But then it's a question of getting the text back in place. It's just too time-consuming, and I'm not really sure that I'm doing it right. So I've decided to opt for Plan B; however, next year I will run into the same situation. I guess I'm kind of on the way to sorting this out, but it's an awful lot of trouble.
Thanks for your help, Peter. You always manage to come through. I wish I knew all the stuff you do.
I opened your .indd file (fonts were missing of course) and converted it to a .pdf and the lines were there. maybe try reseting your export preferences back to default.
look to see what option you have checked for export layers..it may be only on visible layers.
Sorry, this came in after I'd quit for the night.
I've played with the page, and the only conclusion I can come to at the moment is there is some sort of corruption in the lines themselves. I can add new lines, formatted exactly the same, until the cows come home and they work. I can remove the text, and the invisible lines remain invisible, so it isn't about layering or stacking order or blend mode or transparency.
Did this file start life in an earlier version of ID, or has it always been a CS5 file?
Busy day at the office!
Although I created a new file and dropped all those text boxes and lines in, the original file did in fact start out in ID3. I skipped over ID4 and went to ID5. But the lines weren't drawn in until well after ID5 had been installed.
I guess I need to play with a fresh set of lines in a new file; no time right now.
I don't know where to find Export Layers. Would you describe, please? It will help to know whether this is in ID or Acrobat.
Although I created a new file and dropped all those text boxes and lines in, the original file did in fact start out in ID3.
I thought that might be the case. This is very typical of the kind of problem people are reporting when directly converting legacy .indd files in CS5 and later, and often the problems don't show up until output, like this. Sometimes they're fatal, too.
I've never had an issue with one of my own files, so I don't know waht riggers this, but I no longer even consider opeing legacy files in new versions. Instead I export to .inx (CS4 or earlier) or .idml and convert that. You might be able to rescue this file by exporting to .idml, opening it in CS4 if you can find a copy, exporting to .inx, open that in CS3, re-export to .inx and open that in CS6. I didn't try that, so I don't know if it will work. If I get a chance, though, I will. There will probably be text re-flow issues, though after the conversions.
It's okay, Peter. I made an executive decision to convert back to solid lines, and make them a little thinner. That'll work.
What I don't know is how I generated the file for the next book. A .pdf will tell all. I may have done a File\Save As from this current file. I don't remember, but I am quite sure it came together after I installed CS5.
I'm submitting my book in a couple hours from now! Thanks for your help, Peter. You always come through.