9 Replies Latest reply on Sep 25, 2013 2:57 AM by robboerman

    Fun with ski's

    arnoldhendriks

      http://www.debuckettrip.nl/

       

      Edge, combined with animation frame listeners to create a parallax effect while moving the camera (because it seemed overkill, and would make it hard to do the proper calculations, to move the front and back layers inside Edge itself)

       

      We were impressed with how much Edge handled for us while building this, even though I had to hack around in the raw javascript source a few times to fix some repositoning issues... will be filing some bugreports soon once I've got them properly reproduced.

        • 1. Re: Fun with ski's
          robboerman Level 4

          Well you made my bucketlist

           

          you might see it back on edgehero in the future

          • 2. Re: Fun with ski's
            elainecc Adobe Employee

            Very cool, Arnold!  Thanks for sharing.

             

            -Elaine

            • 3. Re: Fun with ski's
              heathrowe Most Valuable Participant

              Very well done, Arnold

               

              Darrell

              • 4. Re: Fun with ski's
                AMULI Level 4

                Hi Arnold,

                 

                Very impressive A huge work to fine tune every sub-animation in the main timeline.

                 

                But I must mention that with a connexion like mine (2,6 Mbps, yes, I know, it's not representative) the preloading phase is very long and the execution jerky.

                 

                I was wondering what could optimize the loading :

                 

                1) use EdgeCommons to load sub-animations at different points in the whole sequence ?

                 

                2) load graphics (I imagine that they are PNG32 files in the images folder) on demand ? Trying to understand what's happening under the hood (may be, Elaine, you can enlighten us) : every graphics instantiated somewhere in this long timeline has to be downloaded in one go during preloading ?

                 

                Gil

                • 5. Re: Fun with ski's
                  arnoldhendriks Level 1

                  Hi Amuli,

                   

                  I'm pretty curious what device and browser you were using, and at which points the animation was most jerky. Part of this for us is exploring the actual limits we're hitting in practice.

                   

                  We're pretty much hitting the limits of GPU memory and accelaration on this site, and browser and platform matters a lot in how jerky the animation will be. As you can imagine, there are a lot of compromises in a site like this (designers want everything fully rendered at maximum resolution for 1080p screens, with the implementers try to tone down the number of megapixels actually required), and from Javascript it's very hard to estimate what the actual capabilities are of the device looking at this.

                   

                  For example, when you're using Chrome, which itself performs well, we'll upscale a few of the most important assets to 4x their original resolution. Unfortunately, this seems to be enough to push it over the limits of some integrated graphics cards. On mobile devices, we use low bitrate mono audio instead of a higher bitrate stereo sound, because the webaudio decoding of the full stereo sound causes a lot of stuttering during the initial animation.

                   

                  I don't think preloading animation assets as they come into view would help us much. The bulk of graphics, especially from a pixel-counting perspective, is inside the landscape layers which we need to move at different speed to create the parallax effects (this is done outside Edge itself, to make the building process easier. the only 'edge' layer there is the actual landscape on which all the animation assets are positioned. We calculate the position of this layer in JavaScript, and use that to position the front and back mountain layers, and the sky. )

                   

                  But this landscape layer ( http://www.debuckettrip.nl/design/edge/parallax.oam/berg-anchorlayer3-1080.png if you get the high res version art 7200x850) is already 24MB, fully decompressed. Any assets we would delay the loading for would only be a fraction of that (the only other asset that I guess we could've saved quite a bit on, would be the northern light layer at the end. It was hard to compress it, as far as I understood, the northern light effect there is not rendered, but based on an actual recording of the nothern light. so no chance of decomposing it into something 'simpler')

                   

                  We've experimented with cutting the landscape into separate pieces, so we could try hiding the invisible parts until we need them, but that caused a lot of 'tearing' of the landscape during the horizontal panning - we found it impossible to keep them seamlessly connected. So we've had to keep it as one big layer.

                  • 6. Re: Fun with ski's
                    AMULI Level 4

                    Hi Arnold,

                     

                    Thank you for reporting your experiences with so much details. We can see that your solution has been carefully evaluated.

                     

                    Indeed, the landscape layer is too much for the 2,6 Mbps connexion I have here in the (little) mountains, far from the high bandwidth connexions which are current in town

                     

                    Gil

                     

                    PS : I am running Firefox 25 on a Mac mini 1.83 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

                    • 7. Re: Fun with ski's
                      arnoldhendriks Level 1

                      Hi Amuli,

                       

                      For the landscape, all you have to do then is to look outside in winter? :-)

                       

                      Thanks for the data. We've found Firefox' performance to wildly differ between platforms: Windows seems to do a lot better than Mac, and you really don't want to try it on Linux. It's probably a quality of gpu-driver-integration issue.

                       

                      Chrome performance is much more consistent between platforms.

                      • 8. Re: Fun with ski's
                        resdesign Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                        I checked it on my iPad and it was great - loading was pretty fast and all worked nicely. Great impressive work!

                        • 9. Re: Fun with ski's
                          robboerman Level 4

                          Added it to Best of Edge #5 http://www.edgehero.com/articles/best-of-edge-animate-5

                           

                          I hope other designers will also submit there projects! alwase love to see that