6 Replies Latest reply on Sep 29, 2013 11:21 AM by iamwickedtall

    Mask Density Crash

    iamwickedtall Level 1

      Has anyone experienced something like this? I recently was working with a few files and found that the density and feathering settings cause my files to crash when I use them as selection. Most recently, I had a raster mask at an density of 60%, and I selected that as a marquee, inverted it, and then selected a different mask and deleted it from the mask. Basically trying to isolate an area for masking. The second mask I applied was applied to a group, everything up to this point saved fine. But once I selected the mask, inverted etc. I tried to save and immediately photoshop became unresponsive and would crash. Is this a known bug? It's really frustrating, that the mask properties have lead to issues like this.



        • 1. Re: Mask Density Crash
          Trevor.Dennis Adobe Community Professional

          Can you tell us which version of Photoshop and what OS you are using?

          • 2. Re: Mask Density Crash
            iamwickedtall Level 1

            Windows 7 and Photoshop CC at home. But I've encountered a similar error with CS6 and Mac at work. The density and feathering settings seem to cause terrible crashes. With the feathering crashes I've encountered the last fix was revising the setting, saving an updating, but I tried updating with this current issues and it kept happening. Please let me know if you need a file and concise steps to recreate.

            • 3. Re: Mask Density Crash
              Trevor.Dennis Adobe Community Professional

              I can't help at all with the Mac, but I suspect the Windows 7 issue might be hardware related. Try opening the Task manager on the Performance tab, and seeing what is happening with your system when this happens.  If the CPU is close to 100% and the RAM is maxed out, then that might be contributing to the problem.  What are your scratch disk settings, and have you got plenty of HDD space?   It is strange that this is happening on two very different systems.  What are the specs of those systems though?


              Had you been working on these files long before they crashed?  If your systems are being swamped, then try an Edit > Purge > All, or restart the computer, open up the image and try the edits to see if it works better while things are nice and clean.  BTW Do you tend to work with a lot of windows open?  My wife is a terror for that.  She complains about her computer being slow, and when I look I find Explorer with a dozen tabs, and up to ten different apps running. 

              • 4. Re: Mask Density Crash
                PECourtejoie Adobe Community Professional

                Hello, please copy and paste the contents of help>system info for both machines.

                • 5. Re: Mask Density Crash
                  iamwickedtall Level 1

                  I'll look at the ram settings and update. I am an advocate of restarting often, and have added restarting photoshop to my workflow as it's a memory hog when opening and closing large files at work and lots of coworkers have complained and my answer is always, restart photoshop often and restart your computer.


                  I had been working with the file a long time, which is when I rebooted. Then like clockwork with that file I was able to crash very time I followed the steps I originally mentioned.

                  • 6. Re: Mask Density Crash
                    iamwickedtall Level 1

                    I tend to find the more obscure issues with PS. A week ago, something in my history wouldn't let me save a file I'd been working on so I went back 10 steps and it was fine, a few months ago, a updating a smart object forced it to crash every time, and now this density issue, which also may be related to the feathering property I had mentioned. A while back a feathered mask caused a crash, but the work around was just changing the feathering and changing it back overwriting the corrupt feathering data. Anyway, below is a link for anyone to access to test the steps I've included below on the file. I was able to simplify my project down to 3 layers and will offer the crash steps to rule out this just being a hardware issue.


                    1. Ctrl + click "3" mask making it the selection.
                    2. Select "2" mask
                    3. Ctrl + C to copy to clipboard
                    4. Alt + Click "1" mask to make mask visible
                    5. Ctrl + V to paste
                    6. Ctrl + Shift + i to invert selection
                    7. Press Delete to fill with whatever color
                    8. Ctrl + S to save


                    Photoshop should now have crashed and said it's not responding.


                    My stats right now, PS is at about 245 MB of memory, 0% CPU, and my phisical memory is at 32% and CPU is 0-5%. My scratch disks are set up fine and aren't utilizing my C drive at all.


                    Also I noticed there were empty tmp files created on my desktop(where the file was stored) every crash.


                    Below is my System info

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