16 Replies Latest reply: Oct 10, 2013 4:25 AM by hayzensproductions RSS

    encore cc is a must have!!

    hayzensproductions Community Member

          many of us, by seeing the fourms i'm not alone, still burn dvds and blurays!!!

      not having cc elimantes the use of the dynamic link, thus causing something that took only minutes to now take hours.

      i have projects that i used to be able to burn all blurays and dvds in about 1.5 hours. today i'm on hour 10 and still going (((((

      very very very very disappointed!!!!  please bring it back!!! it's been so great what adobe is doing and coming out with! don't let this be an achilles heel please.

       

      i'm begging on my hands and knees here!!!!

       

      Wilky Black

      www.hayzensproductions.com

      wblack@hayzensproductions.com

        • 1. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
          John T Smith CommunityMVP

          Begging will not work...

          CS6 is the final Encore http://www.adobe.com/products/encore/faq.html

          • 2. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
            hayzensproductions Community Member

            this is pure crap and have never been more disappointed.  boooooo to you adobe.... boooooooo

            • 3. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
              Stan Jones CommunityMVP

              boooooo to you adobe.... boooooooo

              One of the more articular responses to this perplexing decision by Adobe. And I think it says it all.

               

              We do suspect that Adobe may have run into problems that prevented their continuing Encore, or made it more expensive. In which case, it is probably "boooooo to you Rovio!"

               

              But we can all agree that Adobe's reason for Encore being end of life is lame.

               

              Maybe Neil will call Rovio up and get the scoop!

              • 4. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                JSS1138 CommunityMVP

                causing something that took only minutes to now take hours.

                 

                It's an error in observation to believe that Dynamic Link saves any time.  The transcoding process, given the same settings, will take just as long coming out of PP as it does in Encore.  If one is taking longer than the other, it's almost certainly because you're not using the same settings.

                 

                Coming out of PP, you also get more control, which is a good thing.  You just need to learn to use it to best advantage.

                • 5. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                  hayzensproductions Community Member

                  It causes waiting in the middle of the process versus the end. Thus causing much more time.  Where i could walk away in a matter of minutes now i must babysit the cpu and wait before i can create the bluray or dvd.

                  Not ideal when working with multiple sequences.

                  If im doing something wrong id love to learn the correct way. I started at 10am this morning and finished at 6pm. Ridiculous. The dynamic link never took that long

                   

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                  Wilky Black

                  Hayzen's Productions

                  336.420.1578

                  www.hayzensproductions.com

                  • 6. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                    Neil Wilkes CommunityMVP

                    Stan Jones wrote:

                     

                    We do suspect that Adobe may have run into problems that prevented their continuing Encore, or made it more expensive. In which case, it is probably "boooooo to you Rovio!"

                     

                    But we can all agree that Adobe's reason for Encore being end of life is lame.

                     

                    Maybe Neil will call Rovio up and get the scoop!

                    Wouldn't solve much - all you would get told is that all their DVD products (and BluRay) are discontinued. This includes Scenarist SD/BD/3D BD, Total Code, Cinevision - all of it, all went away forever on December 31 last year & all support goes away at the end of this year apart from archived KB articles.

                    Thios was almost inevitable & I believe it has little, if anything, to do with the so-called "drop in DVD sales" (they killed their BD products as well) and much, much more to do with a conflict of interest in their business (Rovi are a streaming on demand specialist) which raises the question "why were they allowed to take Sonic over in the first place", as their model is pay per view. Do not misunderstand the importance of this - all streaming companies want to go down the pay per view road. All of them.

                     

                    Anyway, Encore was built on a Sonic Authorcore (DVD Producer) and Sonic are nio more - so that is the end of Encore as it cannot be licensed any more unless someone buys up the rights (and I wager Rovi will not sell them either).

                    This leaves Sony as the sole company now still selling DVD tools (DVDSP is a joke at the best of times, forcing use of the single most expensive dongle ever - a Mac - and a wreck of what was once Spruce Maestro until APple ruined it) with DVD Architect, and Media Chance Labs still selling & supporting (but no longer developing or even bug fixing) DVD-Lab Pro 2. For BluRay it is Sony & only Sony, with BluPrint (well over £100,000 by the time you get all the necessary bits) or their abstraction layer tool DoStudio (which they bought from NetBlender) - nothing else can create replicable output unless you jump through hoops.

                     

                    Good, isn't it?

                    • 7. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                      Neil Wilkes CommunityMVP

                      hayzensproductions wrote:

                       

                      It causes waiting in the middle of the process versus the end. Thus causing much more time.  Where i could walk away in a matter of minutes now i must babysit the cpu and wait before i can create the bluray or dvd.

                      Not ideal when working with multiple sequences.

                      If im doing something wrong id love to learn the correct way. I started at 10am this morning and finished at 6pm. Ridiculous. The dynamic link never took that long

                       

                      I would simply never trust multiple sequences - too many disasters.

                      Whilst the AME does a pretty good job (and better than ever in CC) queueing up a stack of encodes is risky.

                      8 hours to encode how much footage please? It does not sound that long to me.

                      • 8. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                        hayzensproductions Community Member

                        Well its more my wedding side of the business. The commercial side has been file format based for a long time nw. So what do i give brides and grooms? A flash drive?

                         

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                        Wilky Black

                        Hayzen's Productions

                        336.420.1578

                        www.hayzensproductions.com

                        • 9. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                          John T Smith CommunityMVP

                          >So what do i give brides and grooms?

                           

                          You export MPEG2-DVD and use the 2 files (audio and video) for Encore authoring, as described by Adobe

                           

                          http://helpx.adobe.com/encore/kb/encore-cs6-installed-cc.html

                           

                          http://tv.adobe.com/watch/davtechtable/using-premiere-pro-cc-encore-cs6-for-bluray-dvd-and -interactive-video-for-ipadatv-and-mobile-hd/

                          • 10. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                            hayzensproductions Community Member

                            Lol. Thanks but i meant when dvds go away.

                             

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                            Wilky Black

                            Hayzen's Productions

                            336.420.1578

                            www.hayzensproductions.com

                            • 11. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                              John T Smith CommunityMVP

                              It is MY opinion that DVDs will not "go away" for many years... not everyone has high speed Internet for streaming video, and I don't think THAT will happen for >10 years

                              • 12. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                                hayzensproductions Community Member

                                I was just sitting in a dub house and heard the same exact thing from them. So this raises the question why doesnt adobe release cc?

                                 

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                                Wilky Black

                                Hayzen's Productions

                                336.420.1578

                                www.hayzensproductions.com

                                • 13. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                                  John T Smith CommunityMVP

                                  >raises the question why doesnt adobe release cc?

                                   

                                  Go back and re-read the above message #6

                                  • 14. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                                    hayzensproductions Community Member

                                    Lol

                                    As john stewart would say, "let me ask you the same question again."  Lol

                                     

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                                    Wilky Black

                                    Hayzen's Productions

                                    336.420.1578

                                    www.hayzensproductions.com

                                    • 15. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                                      Neil Wilkes CommunityMVP

                                      hayzensproductions wrote:

                                       

                                      Lol

                                      As john stewart would say, "let me ask you the same question again."  Lol

                                       

                                      Because Adobe do not own the product, they licensed it & that deal is no longer possible to renew because Rovi have killed Sonic.

                                      Simples.

                                      • 16. Re: encore cc is a must have!!
                                        hayzensproductions Community Member

                                        Ahhh. Ok cool. Thanks for clearing that up

                                        I really do appreciate the help from everyone!!!

                                        I hope my joke did not come across wrong

                                        Thanks again!!!

                                         

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                                        Wilky Black

                                        Hayzen's Productions

                                        336.420.1578

                                        www.hayzensproductions.com