V12 Panorama: Wrong time - Please make it easy to use the Organizer

MichelBParis schrieb:

 

My suggestion :

...

 

1 - Select your source files, give them a common tag and a common caption (my tip would be to select the name of one of the souces plus ' panorama' : very easy to select your files via the very powerful text search). Create a stack.

2 - select one of the sources (the one with the filename used above) and edit it without any change in the editor and save as a version set in PSD format with the final filename you want for the resulting panorama. Close it. It will be in the same folder, the same stack and it will inherit all the tags of the source.

3 - Select your sources and do the photomerge. Save the results overwriting the PSD created above.

Michel, I have the impression that your suggestion is great; and I wanted to test it.

But while setting up my test, when going through the above step 2, I detected that the problem of the "wrong time" is not specific to Panorama Merge. Instead, the problem is much more severe: saving the result of the edit which you describe above in Step 2 resulted in a wrong timestamp (= the 2 hour shift).

I do not understand yet in which circumstances, the edit results in a wrong timestamp and in which other circumstances the Timestamp is set correctly.  I will need to investigate. And then, I will follow your suggestion and report.

Thanks again for your very interesting suggestion.

Robert

Michel

Your "suggestion" is really great!!!

I followed it (with a minor adaptation, in order to fullfill my specific needs) and it worked!

The minor adaptation: after going through step 2, I removed the result of the edit from its Versionset  (perhaps, this might not even be necessary if in step 2 I do not save the result of the edit into a versionset - I will need to test again).

When following your suggestion, the result of the Panorama Merge inherits (as I wished and as you described) all tags of one of the sources.... and even gets included (as i wished) into the same Albums as one of its source....and within the Album sequence is located (as I wished) adjacently to one of its source.

A really great suggestion! A suggestion that will save me a lot work and time.  Thank you very much for it.

---

Now, what will be important for me is

-  first to understand in which circumstances I get hit after an Edit by the two hour shift.

- and then to get a fix from PS deveropment

I can not live with that problem.

Michel, do you know, whether for important problems, Adobe delivers fixes without awaiting the next version of PSE?

Robert Eckerlin schrieb:
......

 

Now, what will be important for me is

-  first to understand in which circumstances I get hit after an Edit by the two hour shift.

- and then to get a fix from PS deveropment

I can not live with that problem.

What I know about the Photo that results after an Edit in the the two hour shift in the edited versions of that photo:

It was a photo shot in California and I had not changed in the camera the time from Central European Time to "California Time". Instead it is later on, in the PSE Organizer that I corrected the time of my California Photos.

For these Photos, I have encountered the two hour time shift, only with PSE V12. With PSE V8, I had no such problems.

I will need to check, if I encounter this kind of problems for all my California Photos.... and will verify that I do not encouter it for my photos shot in Switzerland (which have not be subjected to an eventual time-correction within the Orgsnizer).

Michel, Thank You for your answer.

Hopefully, Asobe development will make a distinction between:

- "missing functionality" (the alphanumeric sort which wes mising in V11), that requires new/additional code

- and "bugs" that are important (because in this case, the bug results in a Timestamp related dis-organization within the PSE Catalog) and can hopefully be fixed relatively easely.

Since the "date problem" that I had encountered orginally while performing a Panorama Merge is a general problem that is not related to Panorama Merge: for the date problem, I will open another Thread.

---

To come back to your excellent "suggestion" related to Photomerge Panorama: it is my impression that based on your idea/suggestion, the problem could be relatively easely fixed in V13.

To simplify a little bit: when performing a Panorama Merge, the Editor could record somewhere internally, the Identification (e.g. Filename and Foldername) of the Photos that are used as input for the Merge. And when later on, the PSE user performs a "Save As" or a "Close" of the resulting panorama, the Editor could offer to the user the option to save the Panorama File within a Versionset.

- in the simplest implementation: the Editor would choose without asking any question with which one of the Input Files the result should be saved into a Versionset

- in a little bit more more luxurious implementation: The Editor could ask the PSE user with wich ones of the Input Files the result should be saved into a Versionset

The PSE user, could (if he wish) later on remove the Panorama Merge from the Versionset. That Is easy and fast to do.

-------

Of course, thanks to Michel, I have now an excellent Workaround. Myself do therefore not need an "official" solution in V13. But I nevertheless believe that a lot of other PSE users will not be aware of the suggestion of Michel and will therefore waste a lot of time for a proper "organizazion" of their Photomerge Panorama. It would be great, if PSE would complement the outstanding Photomerge Panorama support of the Editor with a good and simple-to-use/simple-to-understand support of the Panorams within the Organizer

Hello Neal

Thank You very much for Your Feedback.  I am not sure, how to interpret your Feedback:

1.   is it, as you write, a suggestion to post "as well" on the Website that You indicated?
2. or is it a kindly formulated reproach, that I should not have posted this matter on this user-to-user forum?

Thank You very much in advance for your answer.

If its the second case:

• I should describe that for me it is a difficult trade-off.
  If I would not have posted on this Website, I would probably not have gotten the outstanding Feedback/Suggestion of Michel which helped me tremendously. 
• Also: I asked by email PSE developers for directions on that matter (or at least, on a  similar matter). But until now, I have not gotten any feedback.

I would like to avoid, to trepass some guidelines (that I am not yet aware of) ...and as a result get locked-out from use of this user-to-user forum, which is useful for me for my use of PSE V12 .

A sincere "Thank You", both to Neale and to Michel, for helping me to better understand.

In the next couple of days, I will create Posts on these 2 subjects (= " make it simpler to handle Panorama Merge in the Organizer" and "Wrong Time") in the the "Feedback" Website