9 Replies Latest reply on Dec 16, 2013 6:30 AM by PierreLouisBeranek

    FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)

    PierreLouisBeranek Level 1

      Pasting/Ripple pasting media in Premiere can be a real chore to say the least.  Depending on how full of media your Timeline is, you have to constantly turn track targetting on/off to avoid overwriting clips, and track targetting is at constant odds with other functions you need to use on a regular basic.  For example, if your V1 track is full of clips, you need to turn V1 targeting on in order to be able to use basic editing functions such as 'Add Edit' and 'Ripple Trim Next/Previous Edit to Playhead'.  But then you have to constantly turn V1 targeting off when pasting to avoid overwriting clips on that track!  That's an ill-conceived/inefficient workflow IMO, but there's a simple solution!

       

      What if Adobe added new keyboard-shortcut-assignable functions to instantly paste or ripple paste clips at the cursors position?!  These new functions wouldn't in any way interfere with the current paste/ripple paste functions, and they would save users the hastle of moving the CTI and turning track tragetting on/off all the time.

       

      What do you guys think?

       

      Here's my official FR.  Please feel free to copy/paste and send it as your own FR to Adobe, here: www.adobe.com/go/wish.

       

      *******Enhancement / FMR*********

      Brief title for your desired feature:

      New 'Paste at Cursor' & 'Ripple Paste at Cursor' functions

       

      How would you like the feature to work?

      These keyboard-shortcut assignable functions would allow users to easily paste/ripple paste copied clips at the cursor location.  For example, if the cursor is over V3, then the copied clips would be pasted from the cursor position onward on V3, regardless of which video tracks are targeted or not.  If copied material contains both video and audio, then the linked media could either:

      A) be copied to the matching track (i.e. pasting video to V3 would automatically paste its audio to A3, and vice versa)

      B) respect track targeting the way it currently works (i.e. pasting clips with the cursor over A4 would automatically paste the linked video to the lowest targeted video track, or to the same video track the media was copied from if no video tracks are targeted)

      C) ignore the linked media altogether

       

      This is something that would require research to find out the best option, or could also be offered as a user selectable preference.

       

      Why is this feature important to you?

      Pasting/Ripple pasting in Premiere can be a real chore, since it involves placing the CTI to the correct position and more often than not, turning video and audio track targeting on and off to avoid overwriting clips by mistake.  My two proposed functions wouldn't interfere with this current workflow, while providing users with an easy and intuitive one-step solution for pasting clips to the right track(s)!

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      Regarding the options A, B or C, what do you think would be the best option?   Or should this behavior be user selectable?  Thanks for your input!

        • 1. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
          Jim_Simon Level 8

          I still think using the mouse cursor as a modifier in the sequence is just bad design.  The CTI defines where things happen.  This is industry wide behavior in every NLE.

           

          I think the simpler solution would be for you to set up the Targeting shortcuts to make the job of targeting tracks easier on yourself.  You still have to position the CTI, but again, that's the paradigm for NLEs.  I don't believe changing that would be beneficial.  How many complaints do you think we'd see in the forums when clips stopped pasting at the CTI and went where the mouse cursor was instead.

           

          And just to get a jump start on your argument for a preference, I do feel it's possible to go overboard with those.  You'd have PP's preferences the size of a phone book.  There are times when choice is good, and times when it's better for everyone to do things exactly the same way.  This is definitely the latter.

          • 2. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
            PierreLouisBeranek Level 1

            Jim,

            For crying out loud, do you even read my FRs before responding to them?  It sounds to me like you love arguing for arguments sake.

            Jim Simon wrote:

            How many complaints do you think we'd see in the forums when clips stopped pasting at the CTI and went where the mouse cursor was instead.

            Which is precisely why I said that these functions I'm requesting would be NEW functions!  The current workflow would be preserved: "My two proposed functions wouldn't interfere with this current workflow, while providing users with an easy and intuitive one-step solution for pasting clips to the right track(s)!"

             

            It seems you were in such a rush to discredit my idea that you forgot to read that last sentence of my FR.  To be honest, I would rather you refrained from responding to anything I post from now on altogether, seeing as you have little if anything positive to contribute, and you bring up false arguments based on your false assumptions resulting from the fact that you don't even read what I post before responding!

             

            Now, if anyone else would like to contribute, after actually reading my FR, please, by all means, feel free to share your ideas!  Lets please avoid this thread veering into illogical arguments for argument's sake, and keep the focus where I set it with my first post: Improving Premiere Pro.

            • 3. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
              Jim_Simon Level 8

              Your feature request calls for using the mouse cursor to do what the CTI does - define where something happens in the sequence.  I think that's a bad idea, whatever the function might be.

              • 4. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
                PierreLouisBeranek Level 1

                Complementing the CTI pasting functions with quicker, easier mouse-centric versions is a good thing since it would give users yet another choice on how they want to work.  Remember that these would be new, non-interfering shortcuts.  User would get new options, not lose any old ones.

                 

                I'm still wondering what others think the best option would be for pasting linked audio or video, since the cursor obviously can't hover over a video track and an audio track at the same time.  Which of the 3 options above, A, B, or C do others think would work best?

                 

                For linked audio or video to:

                A) be copied to the matching track (i.e. pasting video to V3 would automatically paste its audio to A3, and vice versa)

                B) respect track targeting the way it currently works (i.e. pasting clips with the cursor over A4 would automatically paste the linked video to the lowest targeted video track, or to the same video track the media was copied from if no video tracks are targeted)

                C) ignore the linked media altogether

                 

                I would prefer A or C, but I'd love to hear other people's input!

                Thanks

                • 5. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
                  shooternz Level 6

                  I  use Alt Drag to copy and move clips to a new location.

                   

                  Effectively ..Pasting the clips to wherever the mouse is pointed.

                  • 6. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
                    PierreLouisBeranek Level 1

                    I absolutely LOVE the Alt-Drag copying option in Premiere Pro!  It's a fantastic time saver.  But it isn't helpful when you need to move around the Timeline a lot to get to the pasting location, nor does it apply if you want to cut/paste rather than copy/paste.  Thanks for the tip though, which illustrated that Premiere Pro already does have a mouse-centric way of 'pasting' clips.  It would be great for PP to adopt yet another mouse-centric method of pasting when users want to cut/paste or when they need to paste cut or copied clips at another location farther in the Timeline.

                    • 7. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
                      shooternz Level 6

                      Interesting to observe that your early FR's and discussions  were all about more Keyboard Shortcuts for Premiere efficiencies and now you have shifted to  mouse-centric arguments. 

                      • 8. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
                        PierreLouisBeranek Level 1

                        Nothing has shifted.  My focus has been and continues to be seeing Premiere Pro become all that it can be, whether it be improvements that would mostly help beginners or advanced users.  And I would love to see more people on this forum do the same: contributing ideas, asking for feedback and offering positive feedback of their own for the betterment of PP for all.  Whether it's a mouse-centric FR, or a keyboard driven one, all I care is focusing on what would make Premiere better.

                         

                        Besides, this very FR is a mix of both: combining a mouse-cursor modifier AND new keyboard shortcuts, so I don't think your observation makes sense.

                        • 9. Re: FR: Paste/Ripple Paste At Cursor (a much easier alternative to the current pasting functions!)
                          PierreLouisBeranek Level 1

                          Bumping this up to see if there are any like minded people on this forum that would like to see Premiere evolve beyond the confines of improvements that are already obvious.

                           

                          Anyone?