16 返信 最新の回答 日時: Apr 2, 2014 8:08 PM ユーザー:KaranJ

    Lightroom 5 言語設定

    countgeoff

      Lightroom 5 学生バーションを購入しようと思っているが、アマゾンとかヨドバシカメラとか、アドビオンラインストアでも、「日本語版」と書いてあります。

       

      買ったら、英語でインストールできますか?それともインストールした後、言語設定がありますか?
      使ってるいるのは Mac OS.

       

      よろしくおねがいします!

        • 1. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
          SleepyDean

          はい、私も Lightroom 5 エデュケーションバーションを買いたい。でも、英語のバーションを買えますか?

           

          上の質問はすぐ返事をしてもらいたいと思っています。

          • 2. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
            countgeoff Level 1

            私は、一応 Trial versionをインストールし、英語で使っていますが、起動するとき、ライセンスキーのところがあります。質問は、もし買ったら、アクティベートして、そこにもらったキーを入れたらそのま ま英語で使えることが続けるのだろうかと迷っています。

            • 3. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
              SleepyDean Level 1

              Hiya Count Geoff! I'm switching to English, cos it's easier and I have just about exhausted my Japanese.

               

              My wife called Adobe Japan today. She only asked if one can download an English version. She was told no. However, she didn't ask about already having an English trial version and just getting an activation key in app / via Adobe Japan. She'll do that tomorrow, if she gets the chance. If she does, I'll come back here and let you know what happened.

               

              Pax/

              Dean

              p.s. I just tried 'live chat' with Adobe support at their main page (presumably in the US). They just told me to contact Adobe Japan. Grrr...

              • 4. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                countgeoff Level 1

                Hey Dean!

                 

                From i have read it should be fine entering the *** serial number into en trial version. not 100% though.

                 

                The "live chat" is a joke. I also tried it, i was disgusted with their incompetence.

                 

                If you find something else, please share here :)

                I will probably buy lightroom 5 by the end of the week, so i will def share what happened then.

                • 5. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                  SleepyDean Level 1

                  Hiya!

                   

                  My wife called Adobe Japan again yesterday, and was told you can buy the regular version in English (presumably by following the process inside the trial version or maybe you can download it?).

                   

                  However, the academic version is Japanese only. Again, I presume cos it locks you into a specific download path when you follow that particular purchase process.

                   

                  The other day when I tried to see what would happen if you followed the in-app purchase process from my trial version, I couldn't get past the web page that popped up to select country. It just seemed to freeze there.

                   

                  I've very annoyed about all of this. I qualify for the academic discount here in Japan, they offer various language options on the Adobe Japan trial version download page (written in kanji, so it's not a mistake or hangover from converting some kind of corporate site template to Japan), and yet despite all this, they still don't offer the academic version in other languages. Very strange, very restrictive and very annoying.

                   

                  I hope someone from Adobe is actually listening.

                   

                  Let us know how you get on if you go ahead and buy it.

                   

                  Dean

                  • 6. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                    countgeoff Level 1

                    Hey Dean

                     

                    Thanks to you and your wife for taking the time and efford to call Adobe support and post your results here!

                     

                    Although the answer from Adobe is kinda disappointing I would take their words with a grain of salt. I have talked with them too and also used the online chat to speak with them - i got the same answer. However, I firmly believe they only answer by reading a manual infront of them, so the japanese student account version says "japanese only", thus they say "japanese only". However, I dont really think they are very competent so am i just going to ignore what they said.

                     

                     

                    On my trial version, (English one, downloaded from here: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop_lightroom), when i click buy, i can easily add the student verison form the japanese store and go to check out.

                     

                    Here is what i think: there is only one version of Lightroom 5. The difference is only in the license. When you get your copy you get a code, send it with your student id to adobe to get your serial number. But this is only to prove that you are indeed a student, or that you actually qualify for the academic discount. However, I believe that once you have the serial number, you can activate any lightroom 5 edition (up to 2 computers of course). So, one version of lightroom, serial is only to prove your eligibility to the student price. Therefore, i think that it will all be fine. (my personal opinion)

                     

                    Anywho, I want to get a physical copy, not a digital one, so i will stroll down to yodobashi by the end of the week and get the student version. Once I activate it (it takes 2-3 business days according to their website) I will post my findings here. If you come across any information in the meantime or get a copy yourself, please share your findign here too.

                     

                    George

                    • 7. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                      countgeoff Level 1

                      I just got my educational edition of Lightroom 5. I sent my documents to receive my serial number, i will get it in 2-3 bussiness days according to Adobe, so i can post final results in the next couple of days.

                       

                      However, i think it will be fine, because although it is a japanese package, english translation is present for everything(how to activate etc) and on the disk and package, it says "ED/MUL", which i think stands for education/multiregion(multilanguage).

                       

                      Anyway, once i get my serial number in the next 2-3 days i will try if i can really use it in English and report back

                       

                      George

                      • 8. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                        countgeoff Level 1

                        Great news - it works in english ! Here is everything i did:

                         

                        1. Downloaded the trial version of Lightroom 5 from adobe's website
                        2. Bought Lightroom 5 from amazon(15% off right now) - (education edition(the one that says japanese only)).
                        3.Received my package, sent the product code and my student id to adobe
                        4.Got my serial number 2 days later
                        5.Put that serial number in the trial version adn registered the product
                        6.In the preferences you can choose from about 10 languages.

                         

                         

                        When i go online and view my adobe id - lightroom 5 is listed there as a registered product. No problems!

                         

                         

                        I guess the "japanese only" sign is there to maybe ensure japanese people that the software will be in japanese.


                        Go ahead and make your purchase !

                         

                        George

                        • 9. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                          SleepyDean Level 1

                          Hi George.

                           

                          Been really busy and only just found your reply.

                           

                          That's good news!

                           

                          It sounds like you got some form of disk or paper work in a box that was delivered?

                           

                          Is this the same, do you think, as the download copy from Amazon that is some kind of serial number form thingy? Does that sound right? It's the student / education download and is 4,909 yen at the moment, which is the same price as the box set thingy.

                           

                          Just thinking the download thing, if it's the same, would be faster.

                           

                          Thanks.

                           

                          Dean

                          • 10. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                            countgeoff Level 1

                            Hi Dean!

                             

                            Wow, it is even cheaper now, i got my copy 2-3 weeks ago for 5900, further -1000yen is definitely a bargain i think - i would go ahead and buy it straight away!

                             

                            There was a paper in the box i received with the product key and instructions on how to activate - following the instructions you get your serial number from adobe.

                             

                            I think that if you buy the digital version you should receive an email with the same info, but i havent done it so i dont know 100%. The trial version can be used for 30 days and i did get my copy on the next day since amazon is sending it, not a random reseller. If I were you i would just get the hard copy, just in case - you can get it next day anyway.

                             

                            And definately try to get it while it is on sale now

                            • 11. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                              SleepyDean Level 1

                              Hiya!

                               

                              Wow, fast reply.

                               

                              Sweet, I'll get the box. Soon as I go home. At Starbucks now, and can't get the VPN to work, so not going to send any card details out while here.

                               

                              I'll let you know how I get on.

                               

                              Thanks.

                               

                              Dean

                              p..s rushing home right now!

                              • 12. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                                KaranJ

                                Hi George,

                                 

                                Well I just bought iMac last week and need a mac version of Lightroom 5 but till now I didn't had any clue from where to buy,happened to read your post randomly,

                                and I do see some light of hope but the only problem is that Im not a student here in Japan,I'm a proffesional working in Animation Industry here,will I be able to get

                                an education edition ?

                                Need your help on that.As I'm dieing to use Lightroom on my iMac.

                                 

                                Best

                                Karan

                                • 13. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                                  countgeoff Level 1

                                  Hi KaranJ!

                                   

                                  Congrats on the new iMac! Any version you buy of the software will support all languages so you are fine here. As from where you can purchase it, the adobe online shop seems to have good prices, but the japanese amazon beats it all the way. I got my version of lightroom for 1-2000 yen cheaper from there.

                                   

                                   

                                  As for the edicational version, you do have to be a student, teacher or work in some sort of school. Anyone can purchase the educational version online. However, in order to activate it, you need to send your student id, teacher badge etc. to adobe. Then they will decide whether you qualify for the discount and send you the activation code. If you do not have any documents proving your student eligibility etc. I advice you to not even try because you will waste your money and the software will not get activated. The normal version is around 13000 yen.

                                   

                                   

                                  P.S. The educational version also prohibits you (in legal sense) to use the software for commercial purposes. If you are a proffesional making money with that software, just get the normal commercial version for around 13k.

                                   

                                  Hope that helps,
                                  George

                                  • 14. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                                    KaranJ Level 1

                                    Hey George,

                                     

                                    Thanks a lot for the super quick reply , Guess I need to shell out double the money though I will be using it only for my own purpose(not commercial) as photogarphy is just my hobby.

                                    or I can go ahead use the 10,000yen App store card which i got as a gift with my iMac n buy Aperture which cost around 7,800yen,but have no clue whether it's as good as Lightroom

                                     

                                    Thanks again for your time George.

                                     

                                    Regards

                                    Karan

                                    • 15. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                                      SleepyDean Level 1

                                      Hi Karan, I'm the other English language person on this thread (who never did "...let [George] know how I [got] on").

                                       

                                      Yes, you need to be not only a teacher or a student, but a teacher or student at a school or institution recognized by the relevant government ministry (actually, being an employee might be enough, even if you don't teach?). There's a list of accredited "academic" institutions, and if your institution is not on it, then tough luck. I was a case of tough luck. Even though I teach actual university students and they get credits towards their degrees, technically I'm employed by a company that is owned by the university, not the university itself, & thus I didn't meet the requirements.

                                       

                                      As George said, Amazon seems to have the best deals.

                                       

                                      Aperture is good too. Until recently I used it (and still do at times). However, I wanted the radial tool and the gradient tool in Lightroom. For many things, Aperture will do just fine. I prefer it's file organisation & workflow generally. Really, you can pretty much do anything in Aperture that you can in Lightroom. Lightroom is possibly able to do some more tricky things better or faster, but some would debate that. Lightroom probably trumps on perspective / straightening. In many ways, at half the price (?), Aperture could be considered a far better deal. If you go the Aperture way, Patrick La Roque's blog, that I've listed below, has lots of useful, real world stuff. Look at the technical articles, and ignore the rest about updates, etc. I've given the link where the first Aperture 3 tech article starts in his blog (& for Lightroom users too, these articles give good general aesthetic advise & good ideas that can be explored with the same or similar tools). If you are a total novice, then then I'd recommend following the Apple online tutorials, and checking out other basic tutorials online first. Ultimately with the Aperture vs Lightroom debate, I just dunno really. It's an area where people often have strong opinions, and saying what I've just said could get me screamed at on certain forums.

                                       

                                      I guess my end advice is kinda odd - if price is an issue, pick Aperture. If price is not an issue, either a) pick Aperture and only move up if it doesn't do what you want at some future date, or b) pick Lightroom from the get go.

                                       

                                      http://www.laroquephoto.com/blog/?offset=1270478370000&reversePaginate=true&category=apert ure

                                       

                                      Not sure that it will, but I hope this helps.

                                      • 16. Re: Lightroom 5 言語設定
                                        KaranJ Level 1

                                        Hi Dean,

                                        Thanks a lot for replying back,really appreciate for the detailed review there.


                                        Well Dean to be very honest I'm not really keen in switching to Aperture that's the reason I'm here in this forum cause I wanted to have Lightroom up n running on my iMac as I didn't knew the process as I'm new to the Mac world :).I have never used Aperture before but so far whatever inputs I have got points out  that it's not bad at all and comes at par with LR,so its not a bad deal to try that for sometime and especially when u can get it as a gift from Apple and later when I feel it's not behaving as per my needs then there's always Plan B to get the Lightroom


                                        Thanks a lot for the heads up buddy,might bother you guys with more queries in future.


                                        cheers

                                        Karan