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1. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
cc_merchant Oct 28, 2013 9:10 AM (in response to Kingsley Bailey) -
2. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
Kingsley Bailey Oct 28, 2013 10:15 AM (in response to cc_merchant)I tried that page awhile ago on an ipad but gave up, now on a laptop and wish I read before posting! Thank you.
I have between 3-4K without having to include monitors (But everything else)
Defiantly advise building a lower spec dual E5 system over a better single CPU?
Just thinking in the long run I might have to upgrade two Processors rather than just buying another beast
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3. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
cc_merchant Oct 28, 2013 10:44 AM (in response to Kingsley Bailey)iPad is problematic for these pages, due to the lacking Flash support on iPad's.
With that budget, very limited AE use foreseen, it looks the Low-end Warrior or Warrior are more realistic choices. Your intention to use only SSD's will increase costs significantly, especially with storage hungry material like ProRes 4K. BTW, why ProRes? Have you read the warning here: Tweakers Page.
Upgrading a CPU can be problematic, as with the coming Haswell-E, which is not pin-compatible with SB-E or IB-E, even though it is still based on the 2011 socket. So it requires a new mobo and possibly DDR-4 memory as well. Same for the Xeon range.
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4. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
Kingsley Bailey Oct 28, 2013 11:40 AM (in response to cc_merchant)I will be shooting primarliy on the Blackmagic 4k so the only opitions are ProRes 422 and CinemaDNG RAW. I can get a good deal through a friend at Crucal and having multiple SSD's mean more space when filming as the BM4k takes 2.5"
So DNG RAW would be smoother than ProRes?
Thanks again for the help,
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5. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
ECBowen Oct 28, 2013 4:07 PM (in response to Kingsley Bailey)Cineform would be the ideal codec to deal with the DNG media. DNG has better quality than Pro Res but Pro Res performs better and is supported by Premiere. DNG has to be transcoded as you know or load in AE comp and link to Premiere for support in Premiere. The performance is poor that way though. Cinema DNG converts to Cineform with a near negligible differential so there is no loss while maintaining the quality in a Wavelet based codec. I would recommend that if you want the highest quality.
Until Quicktime gets updated on Windows then 32 bit limitation makes a single CPU system perform better with Pro Res than a Dual. I would also suggest a faster 6 core over a Xeon since Quicktime doesn't thread as well on Windows. If you decide on Cineform as the intermediary then the single E5-Xeon 10 core would be ideal. Cineform threads very well and gives you the option for AVI instead of MOV. That eliminates the 32 bit limitation and threading performance.
Eric
ADK
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6. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
Kingsley Bailey Oct 29, 2013 5:49 AM (in response to ECBowen)So a batch conversion to Cineform will help smooth things out, and a single higher spec E5 is the better choice.
If i was to edit offline at a lower res would an i7 4930k be suffice with a Cineform format?
Thanks Eric
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7. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
ECBowen Oct 29, 2013 7:47 AM (in response to Kingsley Bailey)Cineform has a low compression level and high performance with AVI that the 6 Core will handle the 4K media fine. No need to off line that media.
Eric
ADK
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8. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
Kingsley Bailey Oct 31, 2013 5:44 AM (in response to ECBowen)My final question is my monitor will be a Seiki Digital 50-inch 4k 120Hz, regrding a GPU will a GTX 650 be suffice? or will I really notice the differnce with a 670?
Current build plan
i7 4930k
Corsair h100i
ASRock X79 Extreme 6 ATX ( my first build / not confident on how to update Rampage IV BIOS )
Corsair Vengenance 32gb 4x8 DDR3 1866
Samsung 840 Pro 128gb SSD
Crucial M500 960gb SSD
Seagate Constellation ES.3 2TB 7200RPM
Seagate Constellation ES.3 2TB 7200RPM
Seagate Constellation ES.3 2TB 7200RPM
Seagate Constellation ES.3 2TB 7200RPM
I am researching into raid controllers
Still unsure about a case and power supply, appreicate any advice.
Thanks for the help!
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9. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
ECBowen Oct 31, 2013 9:06 AM (in response to Kingsley Bailey)The 650Would handle the display but I would suggest the 770GTX or the 780GTX for that. A 850W PSU or higher is what I suggest. If you plan to install another GPU down the road then get 1200W.
EricADK
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10. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
Kingsley Bailey Nov 1, 2013 9:33 AM (in response to ECBowen)Planned build - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/kingsleybailey%40hotmail.com/saved/2HVR
I am umming and arrring over the GPU, its about a 10% budget increase from a 770 2gb to a 780 3gb
I do have the money and further down the line do plan on buying a second for sli, I just want to know will the 780 be that much more of a benifit?
Thank you all who have responded above I am very greatfull and excited to order my first build!
Kingsley
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11. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
ECBowen Nov 1, 2013 10:14 AM (in response to Kingsley Bailey)4K media would use the power of the 780GTX card so yes it would be worth it.
Eric
ADK
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12. Re: 4k basic editing, i7 4930K or E5?
Bill Gehrke Nov 1, 2013 1:15 PM (in response to Kingsley Bailey)This next week nVidia is introducing a new GTX 780 Ti card and dropping current pricing on the GTX 780.
"Starting this week, Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 (GK110, 2304 stream processors, 192 texture units, 48 render output units, 384-bit memory bus, 3GB GDDR5 memory) costs $499"
$499 = 312.70 British Pound Sterling



