14 Replies Latest reply on Nov 8, 2013 12:45 PM by A.T. Romano

    Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue

    TysenM

      Why is it when I take an Elements 11 slide show wmv file and burn it to a DVD, using the maximum resolution and selecting the NTSC widescreen Dolby DVD option, the resolution degrades?

        • 1. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
          John T Smith Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          I don't use WMV as source, since my understanding is that it is a compressed file... then you create a DVD, which is compressed again... and you now have 2 levels of compression

          • 2. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
            Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

            I agree with John. WMVs don't make the source video. Particularly if they are of lower-than-standard resolution (as most online files do) or include high-compression.

             

            The best formats for Premiere Elements are DV-AVIs and M2T high-def video files. They'll always give you the best quality output.

             

            Where are your WMVs coming from?

            • 3. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
              TysenM Level 1

              Thanks for your feedback. The wmv files are created by Organizer 11. In earlier versions of Elements/Premiere Elements (5 and 8), I had no problem using the wmv files from the Organizer...

               

              I will try your suggestion.

               

              Thanks, TysenM

              • 4. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                TysenM Level 1

                I just checked my Organizer 11 and my only output option is a wmv file! I do, however, have a wide selection of resolutions...

                 

                TysenM

                • 5. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                  the_wine_snob Level 9

                  Instead of outputting to a file, can you instead, use Send to Premiere Elements, which will create a PrE Project for that SlideShow?

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                    A.T. Romano Level 7

                    TysenM

                     

                    When you create a slideshow in Elements Organizer and opt to output it as Save As File Movie WMV, you need to set the File Size. If you select the NTSC DVD choice that you see, the profile is for DVD-VIDEO standard 4:3 project. Check the description accessed from the Details button there. You can select the DVD-VIDEO widescreen 16:9 wmv profile, by scrolling down to the bottom of the File Size list and selecting Browse for More if you do not already have "Widescreen Standard Definition (NTSC)" showing in your File Size list choices. If you have Windows 7 or 8 64 bit, the path to your additional choices is:

                     

                    Local Disc C

                    Program Files (x86)

                    Adobe

                    Elements Organizer 11

                    Assets

                    Locale

                    en_US

                    tv_profiles

                    and in the tv_profiles folder you should find included 04 Widescreen Standard Definition (NTSC).

                     

                    But, when all is said and done, "Why are you not using the Elements Organizer 11 Slideshow Editor output of Edit with Premiere Elements?", in order to get the non wmv format of .psess?

                     

                    I do not believe that the .wmv vs non .wmv is at the core of your issue. I have gotten good results either way.

                     

                    Could it be that you have high resolution photos (exceed 1920 x 1080 pixels) and you are disappointed with the resolution characterized by DVD-VIDEO (720 x 480 frame size whether standard or widescreen....the widescreen has a 16:9 flag that stretches the video for display after encoding. But that scretching is not going to take the video frame size to 1920 x 1080 or more).

                     

                    Just some thoughts for your consideration.

                     

                    We will be watching for your results.

                     

                    Thanks.

                     

                    ATR

                    • 7. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                      A.T. Romano Level 7

                      TysenM

                       

                      I did not see Hunt's post until after I had posted mine.

                       

                      I would make this comment to keep you in sync with the suggestions.

                       

                      Hunt is referring you to the "Send to Premiere Elements" output command that exists in versions of Premiere Elements much earlier than your version 11. In your Premiere Elements 11, that output option is named Edit with Premiere Elements Editor...same thing, different name.

                       

                      ATR

                      • 8. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                        the_wine_snob Level 9

                        ATR,

                         

                        Thank you for the correction in nomenclature. Adobe seems to enjoy changing the names for common operations, version to version, such as "Get Media," and "Add Media."

                         

                        Appreciated,

                         

                        Hunt

                        • 9. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                          TysenM Level 1

                          I just repeated the whole sequence as follows and still got a blurry result:

                          1) Organizer: Selected: DVD-NTSC (720x480)

                                                Output: Edit with Premier Elements Editor

                          2) Premier Elements: Publish+Share

                                                           Selected: DVD

                                                                           Preset: NTSC_DolbyDVD

                                                                           Highest Quality

                          I chose not to 'Render' before selecting Publish+Share since that has not made a difference in the past...

                           

                          I am still stuck. I did download the latest fixes to both Elements & Premier Elements 11 yesterday...

                          • 10. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                            A.T. Romano Level 7

                            TysenM

                             

                            Thanks for the follow up.

                             

                            What are these fixes for both Photoshop Elements 11 and Premiere Elements 11 to which you refer? Just curious about that.

                             

                            Let us back up a little.

                             

                            What are the pixel dimensions of your photos and how many of them do you have in this presentation? For now I am assuming that you dealing with photos that have pixel dimension equal of greater than 1920 x 1080. Please let us know if that is not the case.

                             

                            I would like you to take a few as is and import them into a Premiere Elements 11 project with the project preset that you set manually.

                            a. File Menu/New/Project

                            b. In the new project dialog, set for NTSC/DSLR/1080p/DSLR 1080p30. Be sure to place a check mark next to "Force Selected Project Settings on this Project" before you exit the new project dialog.

                            c. Then back in the Premiere Elements 12 Expert workspace, use Add Media/Files and Folders/ to get some of those photos into Project Assets and from there to the Timeline.

                            d. If an orange line exists over the Timeline content, then render that Timeline content by pressing the Enter key of the computer main keyboard.

                             

                            See what that looks like at playback in the Edit Mode monitor?

                             

                            Are you making your comparisons based on what you see in the monitor or are you actually taking the Timeline content to DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc (Publish+Share/Disc/DVD disc). From what you wrote, it sounds like you are. What are you using for viewing?

                             

                            Here I would ask this question...just before you would hit Burn in the burn dialog, what does the Quality Area in the burn dialog show for Space Required and Bitrate?

                             

                            Thanks.

                             

                            ATR

                            • 11. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                              TysenM Level 1

                              Hi ATR,

                              Thanks for your detailed response. Here are my responses to your questions.

                               

                              I downloaded about 11MB of Adobe Elements/Premiere Elements 11 updates by selecting the Update option under Help. I don't know what the details were...

                               

                              I start out with 1920 x 1080 photos and sometimes they end up a little smaller after editing. I also save them in 300 KB files rather than the more than 1 MB files in which they were recorded in my camera.

                               

                              I have been unable to find the option: "Force Selected Project Assets on this Project."

                               

                              I think the bottom line is as follows: I have generated a wmv file with the Organizer 11 using settings set to NTSC widescreen Dolby using the maximum resolution settings to obtain a focused wmv file. When I burn this file to disk using Premier 8, I get a focused DVD. When I take that same wmv file and burn a disk, after rendering, in Premier 11, I get an unfocused DVD.

                               

                              I think at this point, I need to discuss this with Adobe...

                               

                              Thanks,

                                             TysenM

                              • 12. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                                A.T. Romano Level 7

                                TysenM

                                 

                                Thanks for the update. Just some more thoughts for your consideration.

                                 

                                The Photoshop Elements 11/Premiere Elements 11 Updates to which you referred are for Camera Raw. As it applies to Premiere Elements 11, it will allow you to import raw and dng images into your Premiere Elements project for use in that project. The benefits of that do not seem to apply to you right now since you do not appear to be using photos with the raw and/or dng format.

                                 

                                Project preset settings are important. You say that you are unable to find the option "Force Selected Project Assets on this Project". Please double check since I wrote that you should be looking for "Force Selected Project Settings on this Project". The following is a screenshot of the Premiere Elements 11 new project dialog with that option circled in red.

                                 

                                Force.JPG

                                 

                                With the above information, please consider reviewing my post 10 and running that the mini test that I suggested.

                                 

                                Is there any particular reason why you need the .wmv intermediate to get to your DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc? Have you tried the "Edit with Premiere Elements Editor" route to get your Elements Organizer 11 Slideshow Editor slideshow into Premiere Elements 11 Expert workspace?

                                 

                                Thanks.

                                 

                                ATR

                                • 13. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                                  TysenM Level 1

                                  Hi ATR,

                                  I followed your suggestions from your 1 Nov post and unfortunately got the

                                  same blurry result. Thanks for pointing out some of the features of

                                  Photoshop Premier Elements 11 that I was unaware of.

                                   

                                  At this time, I think I need to discuss this problem with Adobe. I was able

                                  to get a good DVD with Photoshop Premier Elements 8 which has satisfied my

                                  immediate need to burn a DVD of my slide show.

                                   

                                  If I find out anything else from Adobe, I will let you know.

                                   

                                  Thanks,

                                  TysenM

                                  • 14. Re: Premiere Elements 11 burning a DVD resolution issue
                                    A.T. Romano Level 7

                                    TysenM

                                     

                                    Thanks for the update. Sorry the news was not better. But thanks for checking out the suggestions.

                                     

                                    Looking forward to Adobe's input on the matter. But it typically focuses on current version matters, and 11 is not longer current version. But try.

                                     

                                    A while back several of the unexpected success stories related to blurry DVD was user uninstall/reinstall of the program. There were scattered reports of the issue and that fix. I am not sure if you want to give that a try...depending on what Adobe has to say.

                                     

                                    If you got good results with 8.0/8.0.1, you should have gotten good results with 11. But that was not the case, so we continue to seek the whys. I will look over the thread again to see if anything was overlooked.

                                     

                                    We will be watching for further developments.

                                     

                                    Thanks.

                                     

                                    ATR