7 Replies Latest reply: Nov 12, 2013 1:35 PM by Stan Jones RSS

    Subtitle Problems and a  Toggle Button

    frootjooce

      I have two issues.  Firstly I have a dvd with subtitles and I have set the 'Disc' properties to subtitles 'off'  Despite this when I play the disc on a TV or in Windows Media Player on a computer the subtitles are 'on' and display.

       

       

       

       

      Secondly, assuming there's an answer to the first issue; Is it possible to have one button that will toggle subtitles on AND off?

       

      I have so far created a button on the main menu and gone to the 'specify link' window linked the button to its own menu and specified subtitles '1' Which I am assuming switches the subtitle track 1 'on' for all timelines in the DVD.

       

      But is it possible to have that same button switch the subtitles 'off'.  Seems to me there's no option to have two states to a button - am I right??

        • 1. Re: Subtitle Problems and a  Toggle Button
          Stan Jones MVP

          I have set the 'Disc' properties to subtitles 'off'  Despite this when I play the disc on a TV or in Windows Media Player on a computer the subtitles are 'on' and display.

          That should work. Check to be sure that when the disk itself is selected, you do have subtitles set to "off" and not "no change."

           

          Is it possible to have one button that will toggle subtitles on AND off?

          I think that is a "no." The usual method is at least 2 buttons (on and off). When in the menu, you can show the setting by which button is selectede by default. But unless this is in a separate menu from buttons that call timelines, I would not use it.

           

          http://help.adobe.com/en_US/encore/cs/using/WSbaf9cd7d26a2eabfe807401038582db29-7e8ca.html #WS1CE3EF35-C244-4819-AADD-D82547E5E04Ea

          • 2. Re: Subtitle Problems and a  Toggle Button
            frootjooce Community Member

            Thanks for the reponse Stan,

             

            See screen dump below, I've x'd out the client name but otherwise as is.

             

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            • 3. Re: Subtitle Problems and a  Toggle Button
              Stan Jones MVP

              That looks correct.

               

              I created a test DVD build to folder. Plays correctly in VLC player.

               

              I can't burn a disk to test at present,but I still see no reason this does not work.

               

              Anything special in how the first timeline is selected to play?

               

              Does this work in Encore preview? (It should.) It should start with subtitles off; these is a toggle there, which will turn them on and off.

               

              Sorry to ask - : these are subtitles, with a subtitle track and all...?

              • 4. Re: Subtitle Problems and a  Toggle Button
                frootjooce Community Member

                Hi Stan, one thing I change was the 'set audio' the previous disc was set to track 1 this one to no change. This works as it should on my bluRay player at home and in VLC and but not Nero or WMP - they still default to subtitles 'on'

                 

                Glad you suggested checking Preview howver.  Turns out I have one timeline that is an mpg rather than elementary mpv and mpa tracks I have for all the others.  If I go directly to an elementary timeline subtitles are off as they should be.  If I go to the mpg timeline they are on - wrong.  Further, if I go to an elementary timeline - off/OK - then to an mpg timeline on/Wrong and back to the same elementary timline now on/Wrong.

                 

                Hope you're following this!

                 

                Curious, so I am going to redo the mpg timeline and see.

                 

                 

                 

                On the toggle on off issue the Client has sent me a disc from another job authored in the US [see screenshot] this has one button and works fine.  So it is possible, just not in Encore I guess.

                 

                screen3.jpg

                 

                See timeline screenshot too

                 

                screen2.jpg

                • 5. Re: Subtitle Problems and a  Toggle Button
                  frootjooce Community Member

                  Hi Stan,

                   

                  Trying hard not to swear on the forum, but I've just found a button on the first sub menu with link set to turn subs on.  Needless to say because its in the first submenu where normally testing starts, and all the others are on 'no change' once its been clicked everything is 'on'

                   

                  ****!!

                   

                  Still got the toggle issue though

                  • 6. Re: Subtitle Problems and a  Toggle Button
                    Stan Jones MVP

                    Trying hard not to swear on the forum, but I've just found a button on the first sub menu with link set to turn subs on.  Needless to say because its in the first submenu where normally testing starts, and all the others are on 'no change' once its been clicked everything is 'on'

                    Yes, swearing is hard to resist, but this is ultimately good news: that problem is solved!

                    • 7. Re: Subtitle Problems and a  Toggle Button
                      Stan Jones MVP

                       

                      On the toggle on off issue the Client has sent me a disc from another job authored in the US [see screenshot] this has one button and works fine.  So it is possible, just not in Encore I guess.

                      We don't know how that was done; it might be scripting. Yes, we'd have loved scripting in Encore.

                       

                      While my answer is still "no," that for ordinary operations you can't do a single subs on/off button in Encore, a single button is POSSIBLE in Encore. It fakes it, and becomes complicated if it is on more than one menu. Basically, the one button is not really one, but two, one on each of two menus. So on Menu 1, we start with a default of OFF and have a button appearance showing that. When you push the button, it turns subs ON, and takes you to Menu 2, which has an identical button except that it appears so we know it is ON. When you click it, it turns sub OFF, and takes you to Menu 1.

                       

                      I prefer two buttons on their own menu, so it doesn't bother me.