3 Replies Latest reply: Nov 13, 2013 8:51 AM by A.T. Romano RSS

    A How To: Create a Widescreen High Definition Slide Show from the Organizer

    nealeh Community Member
    nealeh Nov 12, 2013 2:00 PM

      [EDIT] I just tried another one and, weirdly, that produced an output with black bars around all four sides! So maybe this 'how to' is not 100%.  I have considered deleting the post altogether but, as it does still produce a superior slideshow quality file than the standard ones provided with Elements,  I've decided to leave it with this edit added at the top for additional info.[END_EDIT]

       

      In answering a question in another forum I found a nice quick way to create proper widescreen high definition slide shows from just the Elements Organizer. Apologies if this is 'old news' to readers, but I've not seen this described elsewhere so I thought I'd share it.

       

      The Organizer Slide Show creator, if not wanting to edit in PRE, provides a small set of Windows Media Player profiles to create .wmv files. But the best of these goes only to 1024x768 (a 4:3 monitor resolution setting). I've noticed, but never paid much attention to, that at the bottom of the Slide Size box there is a 'Browse for more' option that lets you search for additional Windows Media Encoder profiles. Investigation showed me that I can download the Windows Media Encoder software from Microsoft and create my own profiles. But even further investigation showed  me that someone had already done this! I've tested their full HD profile and it works just fine (1920x1080).

       

      So if you are just after a straightforward slide show (i.e. not needing PRE features) but want it displayed on your Full HD TV set here is what you do:

       

      1. Download the HD Profiles from http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/236895-hd-profiles-for-windows-movie-maker/. There's also a couple of useful SD sizes there as well. Save them somewhere you can easily find them.
      2. Create your slide show in the Organizer. Obviously use appropriately sized images for HD. There's little point outputting an HD wmv file using low resolution and/or 4:3 aspect ratio images.
      3. Save and Output your slide show.
      4. In the output dialog ('Save As a File') scroll down to the bottom of Slide Size and select 'Browse for more ...'.
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      5. Browse to the file you downloaded in step 1 and click Open.
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      6. Click OK and your Widescreen HD .wmv file is prepared.
      7. Here's a Gspot analysis of my test output file. As you can see it is an HD file with a 16:9, square pixel, aspect ratio.
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      8. Ta Da!

       

      Cheers,
      --
      Neale
      Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

       

      If this post or another user's post resolves the original issue, please mark the posts as correct and/or helpful accordingly. This helps other users with similar trouble get answers to their questions quicker. Thanks.

        • 1. Re: A How To: Create a Widescreen High Definition Slide Show from the Organizer
          A.T. Romano Community Member
          A.T. Romano Nov 12, 2013 7:50 PM (in response to nealeh)

          nealeh

           

          You did not mention a specific Premiere Elements Elements Organizer combo for this, so for now I will address this from the version 11, not Windows Movie Maker, perspective if I need to get version specific.

           

          .prx

           

          The Browse for More is a well known route and does offer at least one Adobe profile for 1280 x 720 16:9. I am not sure where you came up with the lesser resolution,1024 x 768 that you mentioned. The Windows Media profiles have existed for several versions of Elements Organizer. Those Adobe ones that you do not see under Output Save As A File Movie (.wmv), can be found in the Windows 7 or 8 64 bit path

          Local Disc C

          Profile Files (x86)

          Adobe

          Elements 11 Organizer

          Assets

          Locale

          en_US

          tv_profiles

          in the tv_profiles Folder are included the .prx files

          .....10. 640 x 480 Enhanced Definitions

          .....12. 852 x 480 Widescreen Enhanced Definition

          .....14 1280 x 720 Widescreen High Definition

           

          A homemade 1920 x 1080 16:9 30 frames per second .prx has long been sought but not that easily produced by many using with the Windows Media Encoder Editor. Apparently you have found one online, and it does get accepted into the Premiere Elements 11 Browse for More choices. And, if you do a gspot readout for the wmv output from Elements Organizer 11, it will display all the "right" properties that you hoped for and that are shown in your screenshot.

           

          The bottom line, why bother with the wmv slideshow? If you take your original photos and size them for 1920 x 1080 16:9, use them in the Elements Organizer 11 Slideshow Editor (Crops used in preferences), use the Edit with Premiere Elements Editor command, what you get in Premiere Elements 11 is full and good in all regard. Have you tried it?

           

          I can see your interest if this is HD going to HD (AVCHD on DVD or Blu-ray disc format on Blu-ray disc, but I do not see this for an Elements Organizer Slideshow that is going to DVD-VIDEO widescreen.

           

          More later.

           

          ATR

          • 2. Re: A How To: Create a Widescreen High Definition Slide Show from the Organizer
            nealeh Community Member
            nealeh Nov 13, 2013 4:00 AM (in response to A.T. Romano)

            Thanks for that. I didn't know that there were other .prx files provided by Adobe. And Browse for More does not default the browse path to the folder structure you describe, so it's one of those 'you either know it or you don't' things - I didn't :-)

             

            A.T. Romano wrote:

             

            The bottom line, why bother with the wmv slideshow?

             

            The question came up in the PSE forum, where PRE was not available to the poster.

            A.T. Romano wrote:

             

            I can see your interest if this is HD going to HD (AVCHD on DVD or Blu-ray disc format on Blu-ray disc

             

            The HD .wmv files can be streamed across a home network to a network enabled Smart TV, so writing to physical media is not necessary and a higher quality slide show can be viewed without TV scaling.

             

            Cheers,
            --
            Neale
            Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

             

            If this post or another user's post resolves the original issue, please mark the posts as correct and/or helpful accordingly. This helps other users with similar trouble get answers to their questions quicker. Thanks.

            • 3. Re: A How To: Create a Widescreen High Definition Slide Show from the Organizer
              A.T. Romano Community Member
              A.T. Romano Nov 13, 2013 8:51 AM (in response to nealeh)

              nealeh

               

              Thanks for the follow up.

               

              I have run into an odd issue with the Premiere Elements 11 compatibility with the wmv files generated by the Elements Organizer when using the Elements Organizer Slideshow Output option of Save As File Movie WMV/wmv prx profiles.

               

              I need to do more work on this in order to decide if this is a generalization for all or just a problem confined to my computer environment. While I have problems with the Elements Organizer generated .wmv files, I am not having problems in Premiere Elements with any other source .wmv files SD or HD.

               

              More later.

               

              ATR