6 Replies Latest reply on Nov 29, 2013 1:28 PM by benko214

    Justified margins become wavy when I export a large file to PDF. Any way to prevent this?

    benko214

      When I export a large file with justified margins to PDF, the right margin becomes uneven. The attached images below show what it looks like in inDesign (left) and what it looks like as a PDF (right). This is a problem because I need to convert to PDF in order to print.

       

      The margins do do not become left-aligned. They are more even than that, but still not as even as justified lines should be.

       

      This is a very large file - 7 by 7 feet - consisting of more than a thousand lines of text. I do not have the same problem with smaller files.

       

      This occurs on multiple computers. I have tried everything on Adobe's "Troubleshoot printing, PDF export" page.

       

      Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

       

      In inDesign.jpgWavy PDF margins.jpg

        • 1. Re: Justified margins become wavy when I export a large file to PDF. Any way to prevent this?
          Laubender Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          @benko214 – What InDesign (exact version), what OS platform?
          Did you include the font in your PDF? And if yes, how?

          Can you show us the export settings with screen shots?

           

          HowToInsertScreenShot.png

          If Acrobat Pro is available, can you show the Fonts tab in the Document Properties of the PDF?

           

          AcrobatPro_PDF_DocumentProperties_Fonts.png

           

          Uwe

          • 2. Re: Justified margins become wavy when I export a large file to PDF. Any way to prevent this?
            benko214 Level 1

            Thanks for your reply, @Laubender.

             

            I'm using CS6, Version 8.0.2 on a Mac running OS 10.6.8 (haven't switched to CC because my machine isn't supported).

             

            I've used the default (High Quality Print) export settings (I've pasted the summary below. It would take several screen shots to capture all the info, but I'll do that if that would be more useful). I've also used the bare bones ones Adobe's troubleshooting guide recommends and get the same result.

             

            I only have Adobe Reader and Preview, but the font certainly looks correct and justification works fine on documents with less text.

             

            - Ben

             

             

            Export settings:

             

            Description

                Use these settings to create Adobe PDF documents for quality printing on desktop printers and proofers.  Created PDF documents can be opened with Acrobat and Adobe Reader 5.0 and later.

             

             

            PDF Preset: [High Quality Print]

             

             

            Compatibility: Acrobat 5 (PDF 1.4)

             

             

            Standards Compliance: None

             

             

            General

                Pages: All

                Spreads: Off

                Generate Thumbnails: Off

                Optimize PDF: On

                Create Acrobat Layers: N/A

                Export Layers: Visible and Printable Layers

                Include Bookmarks: Off

                Include Hyperlinks: Off

                Export Nonprinting Objects: Off

                Export Visible Guides and Baseline Grids: Off

                Create Tagged PDF: On

                Interactive Elements: Do Not Include

             

             

            Compression

                Color Images

                    Bicubic Downsample at: 300 ppi

                    for images above: 450 ppi

                    Compression: Automatic

                    Tile Size: N/A

                    Quality: Maximum

             

             

                Grayscale Images

                    Bicubic Downsample at: 300 ppi

                    for images above: 450 ppi

                    Compression: Automatic

                    Tile Size: N/A

                    Quality: Maximum

             

             

                Monochrome Images

                    Bicubic Downsample at: 1200 ppi

                    for images above: 1800 ppi

                    Compression: CCITT Group 4

             

             

                Compress Text and Line Art: On

                Crop Image Data to Frames: On

             

             

            Marks and Bleeds

                Crop Marks: Off

                Bleed Marks: Off

                Registration Marks: Off

                Color Bars: Off

                Page Information: Off

                Page Mark Type: Default

                Weight: 0.25 pt

                Offset: 0.0833 in

                Use Document Bleed Settings: Off

                Bleed Top: 0 in

                Bleed Bottom: 0 in

                Bleed Inside: 0 in

                Bleed Outside: 0 in

                Include Slug Area: Off

             

             

            Output

                Color Conversion: No Color Conversion

                Destination: N/A

                Profile Inclusion Policy: Include Tagged Source Profiles

             

             

                Simulate Overprint: N/A

                Output Intent Profile Name: N/A

                Output Condition: N/A

                Output Condition Identifier: N/A

                Registry Name: N/A

             

             

            Advanced

                Subset Fonts Below: 100%

                Omit PDF: Off

                Omit EPS: Off

                Omit Bitmap Images: Off

                Transparency Flattener Preset: N/A

                Ignore Spread Overrides: N/A

             

             

            Security

                N/A

            • 3. Re: Justified margins become wavy when I export a large file to PDF. Any way to prevent this?
              Eugene Tyson Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Hmm that's a strange one.

               

              The only thing I could suggest is exporting your document to IDML

              http://forums.adobe.com/thread/526991

               

              Then open that IDML file

               

              Don't scroll don't do anything once it opens, don't zoom, don't press any buttons!

               

              Then try the export.

               

               

               

               

              This doesn't solve your issue per se

               

              But how about just make the doucment 8.4 inches x 8.4 inches

               

              The printing companies can scale the document up by a factor of 10 to get the right result.

               

              As you said, it works fine on smaller documents.

               

               

              Or if you have it in PDF - try placing that in a 84 inch square document and export that.

               

               

              OR you could try placing your current InDesign file inside another Indesign file at the same size - and see if the export is still wonky.

               

              Or Place the 8.4 inch InDesign document in a 84 inch square indesign file and scale it up.

               

              If they don't make sense then let me know and I will elaborate.

              • 4. Re: Justified margins become wavy when I export a large file to PDF. Any way to prevent this?
                benko214 Level 1

                Thanks for all these ideas, Eugene.

                 

                I tried the IDML and got the same result. Also got the same result when I made the document 8.4x8.4 inches. It must be the large number of lines on a single page that's tripping InDesign up rather than the size itself. Same when I pasted the current InDesign file into a new one and exported from there.

                 

                I'm not sure I understand the other ideas. I don't have a working PDF I could put inside another InDesign document because all of my PDFs of this document have the same issue.

                 

                -Ben

                • 5. Re: Justified margins become wavy when I export a large file to PDF. Any way to prevent this?
                  Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

                  So which viewer is giving you the wavy lines? Preview or Reader?

                  • 6. Re: Justified margins become wavy when I export a large file to PDF. Any way to prevent this?
                    benko214 Level 1

                    Both. And we ended up printing it with a wavy margin by accident as well, so it's not just an issue with the viewer.