3 Replies Latest reply on Dec 2, 2013 6:41 AM by Peter Spier

    index in dictionary ('real' dictionary, not indesign dictionary)

    williammagnus

      I'm making a dictionary for language A in language B. I have difficulties with creating an index at the end (in language B).

       

      Here's the format: (word language A) (translation in language B) (other stuff).

       

      What I want at the end is an index of the form: (translation in language B) (word language A).

       

      (word language A) and (translation language B) have their own character styles.

       

      I have a script (http://indesign.hilfdirselbst.ch/text/indexeintrage-auf-der-basis-von-zeichenformaten.html) that creates index tags from all words in a certain character style (say, of word language A). But so far, I see no way to associate word and translation, so that I get the desired index entries at the end.

       

      All help is greatly appreciated!

        • 1. Re: index in dictionary ('real' dictionary, not indesign dictionary)
          Doc Maik Level 4

          The script would have to be modified to combine keywords from both character styles into one index entry.

          Problem: how to make sure every index entry in language A is then correctly assigned to language B?

           

          Apart from that: what's the sense of an index in a dictionary? A dictionary is actually an index of words already, because usually sorted alphabetically.

          • 2. Re: index in dictionary ('real' dictionary, not indesign dictionary)
            williammagnus Level 1

            Thank you.

             

            The problem you address is indeed a real one. Especially as the situation is somewhat more complicated. There are also entries of the form:

             

            (word language A) (translation language B--FIRST MEANING) (translation language B--SECOND MEANING) (other stuff)

             

            One other idea I had was therefore to use the tag-function:

             

            (word language A) and (translation language B--FIRST MEANING) would both receive tag X

            (word language A) and (translation language B--SECOND MEANING) would both receive tag Y

             

            (that is, (word language A) would have two tags, one shared with first meaning and one shared with second meaning)

             

            To generate the index at the end, I would then however need to be able to read out the content of tag X (word1 + meaning 1), tag Y (word1 + meaning 2), etc.

             

            I assume that something like that should be possible. But have no competencies in scripting. So if anyone knows of some such script (or of course also any better ideas), that would be great. (If it does not do exactly that, but something similar, I may be able to modify it, but I cannot do it from the scratch.)

             

            About the second point: I think it does make sense. The dictionary gives you extensive information about language A. But when you use it, you may do so in order to translate from A to B, or from B to A. If you are doing the latter, you'll need the index. (But of course you are right, the original dictionary is also some kind of index)

            • 3. Re: index in dictionary ('real' dictionary, not indesign dictionary)
              Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

              My first instinct would be to create cross-references. I think you probably should be asking this over in scripting. InDesign Scripting