8 Replies Latest reply: Dec 13, 2013 9:07 AM by Robert Eckerlin RSS

    Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions

    Robert Eckerlin Community Member

      On my Windows 7 PC, I have installed (and have a license for) among other both PSE V10 and PSE V12.  On my PC, when editing a Nikon NEF File, PSE V10 uses Camera Raw 6.4.1 and PSE V12 uses Camera Raw 8.2.

       

      Since on my C Disk I see only one copy of a Folder named "NIKON D5000" (this folder is in C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\Camera Profiles\Camera ), I have the impression that both the versions 6.4.1 and the Version 8.2 of Camera RAW share the identical Camera Profiles.   Is that impression/guess correct?

       

      Question 1: Can I conclude, that (since both Camera Raw Version share the same Camera Profile folders), if I will buy a Nikon D5300 (which officially gets supported only by Camera Raw 8.n (n being probably equal or higher than 3)), that once  Camera Raw 8.n (n=> 3) will be installed on my PC (because this will be the Camera Raw Version supported/used by PSE V12), I will  be able to process my future D5300 Nef Files both with the combination of PSE V10 and Camera Raw 6.4.1 and the combination of PSE V12 and Camera Raw 8.n (even though officially, Camera RAW 6.4.1 does not support the D5300)? Thank You very much in advance for your answer.

       

      Question 2: Can somebody point me to a downloadable  NEF file shot by the Nikon D7100?
      I will then download that NEF file and see whether I can process it with the combination of PSE V10 and Camera Raw 6.4.1. This will allow me to verify the answer to question 1. Thank You very much in advance for your answer

        • 1. Re: Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions
          99jon Community Member

          No. They are both separate apps and have different camera raw plugins. You may be able to copy the file Camera Raw.8bi from PSE12 to PSE10 although some versions of PSE reject later updates.

           

          A NEF from that camera will not open in with ACR6.4

          • 2. Re: Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions
            MichelBParis Community Member

            Robert Eckerlin wrote:

             

            Question 2: Can somebody point me to a downloadable  NEF file shot by the Nikon D7100?
            I will then download that NEF file and see whether I can process it with the combination of PSE V10 and Camera Raw 6.4.1. This will allow me to verify the answer to question 1. Thank You very much in advance for your answer

            You might try googling 'Nikon 7100D NEF samples'

            For instance:

            http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/nikon_d7100_review/sample_images/

            • 3. Re: Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions
              ssprengel Community Member

              You can download a sample raw from the studio-shot review page on dpreivew:

               

              http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikon-d7100/22

              • 4. Re: Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions
                Robert Eckerlin Community Member

                Thank You very much 99jon.

                 

                Hoping to get from somody else a pointer to a downloadable NEF File shot by the D7100 in order to verify what I understand from the answer of 99jon.

                • 5. Re: Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions
                  Robert Eckerlin Community Member

                  Thank You very much to ssprengel and Michel.

                   

                  When trying to download the foto files shown on the webpages that both of you mentioned, I see that it is a .jpg file that gets downloaded - not a .NEF File.

                   

                  Am I doing something wrong?

                  • 6. Re: Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions
                    Robert Eckerlin Community Member

                    My apologies to ssprengel and Michel....I am really an idiot. I believe now to understand how to download the NEF File version.

                    • 7. Re: Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions
                      Robert Eckerlin Community Member

                      Thank you to all three of you (to 99jon, to ssprengel and to Michel)  for your  rapid and useful/excellent  support and answers.

                       

                      After downloading the D7100 .NEF File, I imported it with sucees in PSE V12 and opened it with sucess with Camera RAW.

                       

                      But I was not even able to import that file in PSE V10. The PSE V10 Organizer told me (in other words, that i do not remember precisely) , that he was not able to import the file because it was invalid or damaged. Thanks to you, I have the answers that I neeed.

                      • 8. Re: Camera Raw Versions and PSE Versions
                        Robert Eckerlin Community Member

                        Since I am probably not the only one on these forums who do not understand well (or who is/was not even aware of) the Adobe DNG converter,  I would like to add the following:

                         

                        Yes, 99jon is totally correct: a NEF File from the Nikon D7100 will not open with PSE V10 and with ACR6.4.

                         

                        ...But: a couple of days ago, I realized that I could use the latest versions of the free downloadable Adobe DNG Converter (which supports among other Nikon D7100 NEF and the RAW Files of most modern cameras) to convert the D7100 .NEF files into DNG Files. To perform such a conversion, I started the DNG Converter, identified the windows folder containg the NIKON D7100 NEF Files, provided a couple of options and then let the DNG Converter convert the NIKON D7100  NEF Files into .dng files.

                         

                        Once done, I imported the .dng files into PSE V10,...and could edit them without problems with the combination of PSE V10 and ACR 6.4. Even if I am not a specialist and might be wrong: I did not came across any limitation for the ACR editing of the NIKON D7100 .dng files that was problematic for my purposes (ACR even supported multiple "Camera Profiles" for the D7100!). I am more than happy!

                         

                        To summarize: if making a small détour via the DNG Converter,  it becomes possible to edit with the combination of old PSE Versions and old ACR Versions the "DNG versions" of RAW Files shot with new cameras (like for example the NIKON D7100)..