3 Replies Latest reply on Jan 27, 2014 10:20 AM by rob day

    Help with gutter on children's picture book?

    Timberwind

      I am attemtping to lay out my first children's book in Indesign. I will be printing with Lightning Source (POD). The dimentions are 8.5 X 8.5. A 0.125 bleed is required for the pictures,(pics will be on the left, with text on the right). LS also requires a 0.125 gutter be applied, as apparently if there is any ink along the inside border, the glue won't stick.  I've set up it my document with a 0.125 bleed all around, as well as 0.125 gutter. My question is this-when I drop my picture in, do I drag it to the black center line between the two pages on the screen? Maybe I'm over thinking this, but I just want it to be right. Also, if I attempt to remove the bleed from the inside margin, they all disappear. Please advise. Any other advice for a first time user with no training, but a strong desire to do my own layouts, would be most welcome.

        • 1. Re: Help with gutter on children's picture book?
          rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          I've set up it my document with a 0.125 bleed all around, as well as 0.125 gutter....

          Maybe I'm over thinking this, but I just want it to be right.

           

          You probably want to check with Lightning Source's tech support or see if they have a template.

           

          If by gutter you mean you've added .125" to the trim so the page is now 8.625 horizontal then I don't think you want an additional inside bleed because the .125 you've added manually is acting like the bleed. So if the trim really is 8.5" x 8.5" you would leave the inside bleed to 0" like this, where I've added the .125 to the page with manual trim marks at 8.5" and 0" in the slug:

           

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          • 2. Re: Help with gutter on children's picture book?
            ealincoln

            Hi Tmberwind,

            Did this work for you?  I am having a similar issue, however my book has photos that spand over 2 pages.  I see that it has a gutter in design but lightingsource said it needs to be white and rejected the file.

             

            Thanks for any input!

            E

            • 3. Re: Help with gutter on children's picture book?
              rob day Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              You would think Lighting Source could build the no ink inside .125" for perfect binding into their imposition. Their file guide page 14:

               

              https://www1.lightningsource.com/ops/files/pod/LSI_FileCreationGuide.pdf

               

              tells you to build an inside blank bleed into the document. They don't want any marks, so for 6x9, your document would be 6.125 x 9 with no inside bleed and you would export using document bleeds:

               

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              For crossovers you would have to duplicate the placed art and offset it so that you don't lose the center .25":

               

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