11 Replies Latest reply on Dec 31, 2013 12:13 PM by JWhiteCT

    Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating


      I read this...





      And determined that I mightbe experiencing a similar problem. I have two different master pages.


      Master A -  Chapter Pages - I use this for chapter title pages where the margins are slightly different. This is also where the chapter number is disaplyed.

      Master B - Body Pages - This is where I have the body copy of my chapters. e.g H2 trough H6, Basic Paragraph, Lists, figure references, etc.


      Screen Shot 2013-12-30 at 12.52.33 PM.png


      All my chapters are built this way. Including my appendicies.


      Heres my book page numbering options...


      Screen Shot 2013-12-30 at 1.04.21 PM.png



      Every chapter is displaying as "1 Chapter Title Goes Here"


      Screen Shot 2013-12-30 at 12.54.19 PM.png

      The above chapter is infact Chapter 2 Deployment.


      Heres the Chapter Number Style, or Heading - Chapter Title (H1)

      You'll see I've assigned a specifc list for the numbers to use. It's titled "Chapters" under lists.


      Screen Shot 2013-12-30 at 12.55.38 PM.png




      My question is...

      Is this happening becase I'm using two different text frames in my masters? You can see what my .indd page structure looks like in the pages screen shot.

      My figure references aren't taking the chapter number, I assume because the chapter numbers aren't updating. Is this true?


      How can I fix this without having to redo the Master-A pages or using a single master layout?


      Any help is ALWAYS appreciated, and thanks for your time.


      Heres an idea of my book structure.


      Screen Shot 2013-12-30 at 1.01.14 PM.png

        • 1. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
          JWhiteCT Level 1

          Shameless bump...

          • 2. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
            JWhiteCT Level 1

            I find it interesting to think that using two different master pages would cause an issue like this.


            Using lists and chapter numbers shouldn't be affected by text fields. I can undertand paragraph numbering, across text fields, but chapter numbers, across documents, where only 1 number is called per document... that doesn't make sense.

            • 3. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
              JWhiteCT Level 1

              Anyone? Adobe Rep? Adobe Support? Friendly Passerby?



              What's the good word.... ?

              • 4. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
                Steve Werner Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                This isn't Adobe support. This is a user forum. This is also taking place during the holidays when many of the regular users aren't even here.


                In the meantime, please be patient, and when someone who has the experience to answer the question and the time to read through your long posting, you'll probably hear from someone.


                (I'm not familiar enough with those issues to attempt to answer.)

                • 5. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
                  Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

                  Looks like this is a Book? Is that right?


                  Is the text frame overridden?

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                  • 6. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
                    JWhiteCT Level 1

                    It is infact a book. How do I check to see if the text frame is overridden?

                    • 7. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
                      Peter Spier Most Valuable Participant (Moderator)

                      Did you add text to it on the document page, or is all the text on the master page? If it was added on the document page it is overridden.


                      Have you checked the settings for synching numbers, by the way? It could be that's where the problem is (and that you need to actually synch them).

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                      • 8. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
                        Frans van der Geest (ACP) Adobe Community Professional

                        I can see a lot of missing documents in your book by the way (all the question marks)...

                        How did you set up Chapter numbering in your stand alone documents? Hard numbering? Or did you let the bookfile do the numbering? Did you try 'update all numbering' from the bookpanel fly out menu? Updating numbering while you have lots of missing links to bookfile documents can break things.

                        • 9. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
                          JWhiteCT Level 1

                          So I took a look at the text frames, they're all linked properly. See screen cap.

                          Screen Shot 2013-12-31 at 11.26.29 AM.png


                          This is what Chapter 2 looks like...

                          Screen Shot 2013-12-31 at 11.29.32 AM.png


                          The text is not located on the master pages. It is however placed inside of the text frame which the master pages host. i.e The master pages have their margins and textfields. When I create a new page, it includes a text field. The screen caps above show Master-A and Master-B threaded together.


                          As for the page numbering... They're generated using lists and automatic numbering via paragraph styles...


                          See the screen caps in my first post.

                          And heres the chapter title line selected. Note the number is not selected.

                          Screen Shot 2013-12-31 at 11.33.20 AM.png



                          So... I just checked the Page Numbering Options...

                          Screen Shot 2013-12-31 at 11.34.25 AM.png


                          And found this....


                          Screen Shot 2013-12-31 at 11.34.50 AM.png


                          Ummm.... *face desk* Looks like I had document chapter numbering set to start at Chapter Number: 1.


                          I'll update and see if that helps.

                          • 10. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
                            JWhiteCT Level 1

                            Screen Shot 2013-12-31 at 11.35.57 AM.png


                            Sorry I forgot to preflight before screen caping those other pics.

                            • 11. Re: Indesign CC: Chapter Numbering Not Updating
                              JWhiteCT Level 1

                              Aaaaaaaaand I think I fixed it...


                              Steps to resolve at bottom


                              Screen Shot 2013-12-31 at 12.04.47 PM.png

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                              Screen Shot 2013-12-31 at 12.05.03 PM.png


                              I fixed the page nubering options for every document. Still nothing. Checked overrides and the styles. Cleared overrirdes. And that looked like it might have started to work, and then I rememebered sometimes assignments can cause issues with numbers. So I checked every document out, cleared overrides again (manually... thanks Adobe for the Actions Palette) then I ran Update All Chapter and Para numbers, and....*Taaaaaa Daaaa* It worked.


                              Thanks everyone for your help, and patience while I worked through this. We have a few people working on the document, otherwise I wouldn't have made assignemnts this early in the project.


                              Thanks again.



                              So the possible sollutions are...


                              1. Check your document page numbering options.
                              2. Check your Styles and lists.
                              3. Make sure your styles are "contuning from previous" in the numbering section.
                              4. Check to make sure you have your assignments checked out or unlinked.
                              5. Check to make sure you have no overrides applied. Clear them if you do.
                              6. Run "Update All Numbers" or "Update Chapter and Paragraph Numbers" after you've checked everything out.



                              Thanks again!