6 Replies Latest reply on Jan 6, 2014 8:14 AM by Eugene Tyson

    Word changed when font is changed?

    jnwbr Level 1

      Has anyone ever had this happen? I pasted copy into inDesign (CS5) and then changed the font. Look what happens to the word certified. The word is correct in Story Editor but not on the pasteboard. Autocorrect is off.

      Very weird.

       

      http://goo.gl/XB6LNV

        • 1. Re: Word changed when font is changed?
          Eugene Tyson Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          Go to the Character Panel (Window>Type & Tables>Characters)

           

          There's a submenu top right of that panel.

           

          Check if Ligatures is ticked on or off - and toggle that switch.

          • 2. Re: Word changed when font is changed?
            jnwbr Level 1

            Good call. I just reloaded ID so I know I've never turned it on. Wonder why that would be checked by default.

             

            Thanks.

            • 3. Re: Word changed when font is changed?
              Eugene Tyson Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              Some fonts have ligatures built in - some don't.

               

              It's on by default because at small type sizes the letters like "fi" the dot in the "i" can be lost in print.

               

              So it's done with a ligature

               

              fl (fl), ff (ff), ffi (ffi), and ffl (ffl)

               

              This makes it easier to read when printed.

               

               

              Again, most fonts have their ligatures created in the font, so it's turned to avoid readability problems.

               

              But if you don't like it you can just turn it off.

              • 4. Re: Word changed when font is changed?
                jnwbr Level 1

                Interesting. So a font like Akzidenz must not be using them in this case which is why the fi dropped out? I can turn it off now that I know, but it still seems weird for it to be on by default. Sort of like Content-Aware being on by default for Photoshop fills.

                • 5. Re: Word changed when font is changed?
                  Eugene Tyson Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  I'd say it's best to be left on by default. A lot of font creators create beautiful ligatures for their fonts.

                   

                  But it's up to you.

                   

                  If you want to turn it off for any new documents then go to the Panel with no documents open and turn it off.

                   

                  Changing a setting, adding styles, deleting styles, adding/removing swatches or almost all behaviour when no documents are open will be the default for any new documents.

                   

                   

                  If you have it in a bunch of documents that you want to turn off use the find change

                   

                  And change it in the formating options under Basic Character Formats

                   

                  And choose All Documents.

                   

                   

                  But I'd prefer to leave it on.

                   

                  That dot over the "i" next to an "f" drives me crazy.

                  • 6. Re: Word changed when font is changed?
                    Eugene Tyson Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                    jnwbr wrote:

                     

                    Interesting. So a font like Akzidenz must not be using them in this case which is why the fi dropped out? I can turn it off now that I know, but it still seems weird for it to be on by default. Sort of like Content-Aware being on by default for Photoshop fills.

                     

                    Well - the font you used used a ligature - basically replaced the letters with a different glyph.

                     

                    If you change that font and that font hasn't got that ligature then it replaces it with nothing.

                     

                     

                    That's how I see it working anyway.