14 Replies Latest reply on Nov 7, 2014 10:37 AM by Rick Gerard

    exclude an layer from the adjustment layer

    mouad Level 1

      Hi ,

      i don't know why adobe still didn't add this option to after effects !!!!!!!!

      we have alot of problems with this

      i can't just keep pre-comping stuff !!!!!

      adding a simple column between the 'track mat' and the 'parent' to exclude the selected layer from an adjustment layer in top of it will simple thing's Up .

      please consider this option

      My bests

        • 1. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
          Todd_Kopriva Level 8

          An adjustment layer applies to the composited result of all of the layers beneath it. To implement what you are suggesting would require a complete rearchitecture of how After Effects works.

          • 2. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
            mouad Level 1

            if it require a complete rearchitecture than do it ! i don't know how many years it takes but it deserve !

            i mean seriously we are dying here , or at least adobe should find a solution to this Huge Problem .

            • 3. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
              Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

              To exclude a layer from an adjustment layer you have to re-order the rendering pipeline. In a node editor you add a node, In AE you Pre-compose. Pre-composing is a tool you should use not avoid. There's nothing wrong with it. It does not effect quality. It's all about layers and render order. In 20 years using AE I've never 'been dying here' because of a pre-comp. It's all about planning your work and understanding the render pipeline.

               

              There are changes planned in the visual display of pre-comps in the timeline but the same thing will still hold true, if you want to change the rendering order you have to change the position of the layer in the render stack. Nodes or pre-comps are a way to get that done.

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              • 4. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                Dave LaRonde Level 6

                ...so in other words, get used to making precomps or start moving to a different compositing application.  There are several.

                • 5. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                  mouad Level 1

                  well in my latest project , where there is more than 4000 files ,

                  u can't just keep precomping stuff more than what it is

                   

                  lp.jpg

                   

                  i guess the solution is moving to a software use Nodegraph .

                  • 6. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                    mouad Level 1

                    thank you very much everybody , but moving to another software isn't one of my properties

                    • 7. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                      Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                      Collected files is no indication of project size, a single image sequence could have 4,000 files. AE is a very poor movie editor but it's great for creating shots. If you are building whole sequences with many shots in a single AE comp then you are not using the software in the way it was designed. I have many projects where there are 200 or more layers in a 10 second shot. I render the shot and then edit the sequence in a NLE... That's how it was designed.

                       

                      If you jump to another program with the same or greater compositing and motion graphics capabilities you're going to run into the same problem if you try and put an entire movie in a compositing program.

                       

                      Just a friendly workflow suggestion.

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                      • 8. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                        Mylenium Most Valuable Participant

                        Agree with the others. this "exclude layer from adjustment layer" request usually means that peopel are using AE in the wrong way and not structuring their projects accordingly...

                         

                        Mylenium

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                        • 9. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                          mouad Level 1

                          you'll see , after few years adobe will solve this problem

                          i'm totally Sure !

                          • 10. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                            camelo003 Level 1

                            Hey guys.

                             

                            I was stuck with the same problem, so I found a way to solve it with minimal changes.

                             

                            I have a silly 2d animation representing days and nights passing by. To improve the sensation, I put an adjustment layer to tint all layers below every time the moon rises. But the adjustment layers also tints the sun and moon and with my current structure, full of overlaps, it will be a pain to reorder and mask all layers. So I simply duplicate the layer that I was working on and rename it to "MEGA LUMA MASK" and put them just above the adjustment layer. Inside this new duplicated layer, I tint all layers to total black, except for the moons and suns, which I tint to total white. What I got was a perfect luma mask that respects all overlaps without needing to touch the structure. Finally I just set the track matte of the adjustment layers to Luma Inverted!

                             

                            No pre composes (kinda), no crazy masks. Of course an adjustment layer exception system would be better, but it's a clean, fast and versatile solution.

                            • 11. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                              dariosaquetti Level 1

                              Some people defend their position,in this case Adobe, as if it was politics or their football club. The truth is, the adjustment layer needs to be re designed. If you have 50 layers and you want to apply a stack of effects on layers 40-47 let's say. and keep the rest unaffected,  the only workaround is pre-compose. Sometimes you can't precompose or you don't want to precompose. Basic feature. Much missed.

                              • 12. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                                Todd_Kopriva Level 8

                                If for some reason you don't want to precompose, you can use property links to quickly apply the same set of effects or other properties  to a group of layers.

                                • 13. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                                  dariosaquetti Level 1

                                  True. I mean there's always a way.People have  been working with AE for ages.But I guess, since we are in 2014 and this software has been around for 20 years such a simple update wouldn't kill. Is something basic.Even photoshop has it.

                                  • 14. Re: exclude an layer from the adjustment layer
                                    Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                                    If you have a layer that you don't want to include an adjustment layer and for some reason you absolutely cannot put that layer above the adjustment layer then simply duplicate that layer, move the duplicate above the adjustment layer and make it a track matte.