13 Replies Latest reply on Mar 25, 2017 7:21 AM by MilosI

    XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)

    Pirob

      I cannot find export codec  XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps) (trial version) it maybe present in the full registered version?

        • 1. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
          Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

          The only reason to export to this format would be to go back to an XDCam deck for playback. This is not a normal workflow. In order to have the XD cam formats you must download the importer from Sony.

           

          Personally, I think this is a very bad production pipeline decision. You should be rendering your work to a good DI digital intermediate format for archiving and further production and also render to a delivery format for delivery.

          • 2. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
            Todd_Kopriva Level 8

            Rick is correct.

             

            That said, there are some options in Adobe Media Encoder (AME). If you have questions about using AME, ask on the AME forum:

            http://forums.adobe.com/community/ame

            • 3. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
              Pirob Level 1

              Unfortunately SKY needs this kind of file for their PlayOuts. I saw that the AE 6 For Mac can generate that file. I want to be sure that the AE CC for PC does the same file before buy it. I don't know if this limitation is due to trial version.

              • 4. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                Rick Gerard Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                I don't know who SKY is but if that's their production workflow they are seriously limiting themselves.

                 

                As I said in my first post, you have to download the XD cam utility from Sony to have it available on your machine for endoding.

                • 5. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                  Richard M Knight Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                  SKY are the satellite broadcaster for UK and Europe. They have almost taken over from the BBC in setting broadcast standards over here.

                  • 6. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                    Todd_Kopriva Level 8

                    > I don't know if this limitation is due to trial version.

                     

                    There are no limitations to the trial version.

                     

                    See this for details of MPEG-2 formats and H.264 formats for export:

                    http://forums.adobe.com/message/5426740#5426740

                     

                    As I said, you should be using Adobe Media Encoder for export of MPEG-2 formats. Just search in the Preset Browser in Adobe Media Encoder, and you will see the XDCAM HD encoding presets.

                    • 7. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                      Pirob Level 1

                      I have found some in this post: MXF OP1a export with XDCAM HD 422 1080i50 codec http://forums.adobe.com/message/5816292

                      This is the codec but the container is MXF. I can ask to SKY folks if they can accept MXF Extension.

                       

                      Mac users probabily install "ProApps QuickTime Codecs" http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1396 and the codec appears in the list of codecs available in the Output Module (I think) and the container can be .MOV.

                       

                      I have found also a file converter that can transcode MXF container into a MOV container and vice versa. (FFmbc converter) https://code.google.com/p/ffmbc/

                       

                      What do you suggest?

                      • 8. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                        blackstar8

                        Hello. I have just recorded XDCAM 422 1080i 50 and I'm trying to find the best pobbible export settings - this is what I am using currently

                         

                        I am having trouble with exporting this setting. Fast moving images are ghosty  in places. ie moving hands.

                         

                        I am exporting it as H.246

                        HD 1080i 25

                        And I set to "Match Source"

                        and I use Render at Maximum Depth and use Maximum Render quality.

                         

                        Am i using the correct settings?

                         

                        ps I don't think any shutter was used on the day so could this be the reason?

                         

                        Kind Regards

                        Dean

                        • 9. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                          the_dudes Level 1

                          You are right, this is the wrong forum. But this definitely is a question. Since there wasn't a thread in AME-forum, here it is: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50


                          And: You don't know SKY?

                          • 10. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                            the_dudes Level 1

                            Export settings are depending on where you want your file to play or edit furtheron. This seems a beginner's question, and I'd suggest you go and try a tutorial, instead of asking in this thread.

                            • 11. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                              Dave LaRonde Level 6

                              No.  Do you know the CW?

                              • 12. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                                Andy and Mickey

                                What is limiting to them? I see a lot of opinions on forums about workflows and don't seem to understand what is wrong with XDCAM codecs. I export all of my files to .MOV XDCAM 1080i60 and they all work great. Am I missing something?

                                • 13. Re: XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps)
                                  MilosI

                                  Pirob  wrote

                                   

                                  I cannot find export codec  XDCAM HD422 1080i/50 (50 mbps) (trial version) it maybe present in the full registered version?

                                  The codec you've mentioned in one of your replies is the correct one.  "I have found some in this post: MXF OP1a export with XDCAM HD 422 1080i50 codec "

                                   

                                  MXF should be completely fine for delivery because that is the actual container for XDCAM, I would suggest not to convert it to MOV with any other converter because you can never be sure how that converter really converts the file. Whether it will re-wrap the same information in different container or do a complete transcode of the file, and every additional transcoding of XDCAM will further diminish the quality of the video, like adding additional artifacts all over the frame...

                                   

                                  What I have learned about channels asking for XDCAM is that they all run their editing systems on AVID machines, which are usually PCs. While all of the footage, both for editing and playout, is stored on a storage server and that storage uses some sort of a ingest system which transcodes any file that is to be added to the system in the system's codec, which in this case is XDCAM. This is why I think you shouldn't be worried about MXF.

                                   

                                  But, if you are really required to deliver it as MOV, I would suggest to export the file from after effect as UNCOMPRESSED QUICKTIME RGB 8bit and then convert it with whatever converter that can make it as XDCAM in MOV container. In this way you will preserve as much as possible quality of your final video. Although the UNCOMPRESSED file will be quite big, once the conversion is over you can delete it...

                                   

                                  Although, my personal opinion is that this codec is very week, but considering that the Sky is a international news channel, and that means they need to quickly turn around edits and also deal with huge amounts of rushes from around the world, this requirement seems legit.

                                   

                                  Hope this helps...