3 Replies Latest reply on Jan 16, 2014 1:23 PM by kyledettman

    Encoded File Lighter than Program Monitor Window

    kyledettman Level 1

      Hey guys,


      I've been heavily using AE and PR for over 3 years now, and have never had this happen before. Hopefully someone can help.


      I have an After Effects composition that I've comped and graded, and I'm happy with the look. When I export the comp,  the

      exported file is much lighter (looks like a gamma shift) than what I'm seeing in After Effects. I know there can be a gamma

      shift when using H.264 encoding, so I've also tried encoding my comp with QuickTime ProRes 422 (HQ) and Lossless, but

      I have the same result each time.

      Here are some stills. I really notice the lightness under the mirror to the left of the shoes. This is just one example - the whole

      encoded file is lighter throughout.


      Comp window in AE

      Screenshot 2014-01-16 14.29.17.PNG


      Rendered Frame

      Comp 4_00872.jpg


      Here are screen grabs of various settings for the composition and renderer:


      Screenshot 2014-01-16 14.35.12.PNGScreenshot 2014-01-16 14.35.04.PNGScreenshot 2014-01-16 14.35.02.PNGScreenshot 2014-01-16 14.34.20.PNG


      I suspect the problem lies in the Project Settings, where my Color Space is 'None'. It feels like AE is assigning it a color space, and lightening my encoded file. I have

      also tried viewing the encoded file in a variety of programs, with the same result each time.


      I would sincerely appreciate any help or suggestions. I'm running After Effects CC, and have also tried rendering the comp out of Premiere CC as well as Adobe's Media Encoder.


      I'm running OS X 10.8.5 on an iMac, and have a 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 with 16 GB of memory and a AMD Radeon HD 6970M 1024 MB graphics card.


      The footage is a raw dng sequence from a hacked Canon 5D3.





        • 1. Re: Encoded File Lighter than Program Monitor Window
          kyledettman Level 1

          More screengrabs from the same project for your consideration:


          Project Window:


          ProRes 422 (HQ) Rendered file



          Project Window (detail)


          Screenshot 2014-01-16 14.59.17.PNG


          ProRes 422 (HQ) Rendered file


          Screenshot 2014-01-16 14.59.36.PNG

          • 2. Re: Encoded File Lighter than Program Monitor Window
            Fuzzy Barsik Level 4

            Your suspicions are close in terms of your issue nature, which resides in colour management, but rather the opposite to what happens in your case. If you set 'None', AE doesn't assign any colour profile to your footages, it simply copies data from the source and transfers them to display, where your 'huey D65 G2.5 A0.00' profile is taken into account, whereas your media player is most likely interprets your ProRes file as Rec.709. If you reimport it into AE, you'll probably see no difference between your composition and exported ProRes.


            So as to fix your issue in principle you need to establish proper colour management workflow: set your working space to Rec.709 and assign Rec.709 colour profile on exporting (in general case you should define where you're going to deliver and then set appropriate working space, such as sRGB, Rec.709, DCI etc.).

            • 3. Re: Encoded File Lighter than Program Monitor Window
              kyledettman Level 1

              Thanks Fuzzy, that is exactly what was happening. When I imported the video back into After Effects, the videos were identical.