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1. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
P Spier Feb 3, 2014 9:10 PM (in response to straightlife)Are you certain the paragraph style is proeprly assigned to the header on the page?
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2. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
Steve Werner Feb 3, 2014 9:48 PM (in response to straightlife)Keep in mind that when you change a text variable, the screen may not redraw immediately. Change your view (e.g., zoom in or out) to cause the screen redraw.
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3. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
Willi Adelberger Feb 3, 2014 11:28 PM (in response to straightlife)Even if this answer is not directly to your question, but it might influence your problem:
- You have a double sided document but your document set up is not double sided, it is a single page per spread.
- Your borders are done with the text offset of the text frame, you don't use borders.
I think correcting your master page set up might help to find the cause of the failure.
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4. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
straightlife Feb 3, 2014 11:54 PM (in response to Willi Adelberger)Willi, I don't understand what you said. There are margins. I don't know about borders. The text is within the text frame.
Steve, I know about the slowness of the update. It doesn't redraw period.
Peter, The paragraph style is properly assigned. I've done it over and over and over. The weird part is that "Part One" and "Part Two" reflect changes. And the Chapters do change properly (there are 20). But Part Three simply won't change from Part Two. Believe me. I've done it and done it and redone it. It won't change.
The only thing I can think to do is make a new master page for Part Three. Easy as can be. I'm just puzzled.
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5. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
Laubender Feb 4, 2014 12:03 AM (in response to straightlife)@straightlife – I experienced problems like that in older versions of InDesign. But, if my memory serves me right, mainly with variables in table cells.
Can you provide an exported IDML file of your working document for download at dropbox.com (or a similar service), that someone can check the problem?
(Attachments aren't allowed in this forum)
Uwe
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6. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
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7. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
Willi Adelberger Feb 4, 2014 1:11 AM (in response to straightlife)I have done a look on you file.
Problem is that the frame where your "Part Three" text is, is not linked to the rest of the story. The story is linked to the part two, so the last text with paragraph style linked to the text variable is "Part two", so the beahviour is correct.
BUT you have a lot of problems in your file:
- Running headers and page numbers have to be outside the margins (borders and margins are the same word in German, and InDesign used in German in each version a different translation, so it is often difficult to back translate to English). When you have set up your frames correctly it is much easier to import the text as if you have done.
- You use different emphasis without any character style. Don't. Use only character styles for emphasis text.
- You create space between paragraphs with multiple returns. Don't- Set up the paragraph style with space before and after correctly. Otherwise keep options would not work properly.
- Other problems too, not here and now.
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8. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
Willi Adelberger Feb 4, 2014 1:12 AM (in response to Willi Adelberger)I would also recommend to divide your document in different documents, for each part a different document, and putting them together in a book file.
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9. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
straightlife Feb 4, 2014 7:47 AM (in response to Willi Adelberger)Willi, it's not just the language problem, it's the "my inexperience" problem that makes it hard for me to understand you.
I'm VERY inexperienced. I'm just trying to create a good looking PDF to send to Amazon, and unfortunately I have a deadline for this, so I'm working fast and for too many hours and not efficiently.
The margins/border problem is not a problem for me since test pdfs look just fine.
It may be creating problems with the flow of the text though that I'm not aware of.
However, At this point, setting up a new layout is out of the question. I've already done that three times. I must get this to a proof-reader by Feb. 7
Just tell me one thing -- if you can, VERY SIMPLY. How do I link the PART THREE to the story so that it will show up in the variable header?
Otherewise, I'll just have to create a new master to apply to part three with a fixed header instead of a variable.
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10. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
Willi Adelberger Feb 4, 2014 8:00 AM (in response to straightlife)I wrote it before: The text frame with Part Three is not connected to your story, it is a complete seperate frame.
Adjusting the layout correctly and adjusting your paragraph styles would not take so much time as repairing your problemes yout get by working without styles. Styles are the most important tool in text formatting. And making space with multiple returns will cost you more time than setting up paragraph styles properly even in the state as your document is now.
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11. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
straightlife Feb 4, 2014 8:02 AM (in response to Willi Adelberger)How do I make it a connected frame?
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12. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
straightlife Feb 4, 2014 8:03 AM (in response to straightlife)because you can see I have lots of styles I'm working with and when I select that text and that frame for part three the style and frame I'm using are showing as correct.
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13. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
Willi Adelberger Feb 4, 2014 8:08 AM (in response to straightlife)Click from the previous frame outer square (little square symbol at the right bottom of the text frame) into the text frame with part three.
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14. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
straightlife Feb 4, 2014 8:11 AM (in response to Willi Adelberger)I'll try it!
Right now it's morning here in L.A. and I'm on my laptop in bed.
And first I have to walk my dog and eat breakfast. Those are the only two things I'm doing everyday besides working on this project!
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15. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
straightlife Feb 4, 2014 8:12 AM (in response to straightlife)P.S. Thanks!
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16. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
straightlife Feb 4, 2014 9:07 AM (in response to straightlife)Nope. Doesn't work.
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17. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
P Spier Feb 4, 2014 9:11 AM (in response to straightlife)You have to cut the heading to the clipbaord, then paste into the bottom of the story in the previous frame before you thread that frame into the story, other wise the heading winds up at the very end.
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18. Re: What would cause variable header not to refresh?
straightlife Feb 4, 2014 9:17 AM (in response to P Spier)Oh, Peter. You are a prince of a fella. It WORKED! THANKS!





