6 Replies Latest reply: Feb 7, 2014 5:33 PM by chfilm RSS

    Media Encoder and Quicksync?

    chfilm Community Member

      Hi,

       

      over on the macrumors forum we have this ongoing thread regarding quicksync on the mac. I today posted some benchmark results I did myself:

      http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=18744105&postcount=8

       

      Adobe Media Encoder (the latest CC version) was shockingly slow in one pass encoding on my late 2012 imac compared to quicktime x, and quality was not better at all.

       

      What's going on there? Is AME not using quicksync at this time? Or is there something wrong with my setup?

        • 1. Re: Media Encoder and Quicksync?
          JSS1138 CommunityMVP

          To the best of my knowledge, Adobe software does not make use of Quick Sync.

          • 2. Re: Media Encoder and Quicksync?
            chfilm Community Member

            please can anyone confirm this?

            • 3. Re: Media Encoder and Quicksync?
              thnord Adobe Employee

              Jim is correct. AME does not use Quick Sync. We do have a form where you can request things such as hardware encoding: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

               

              The product team reviews requests that come in through that form so it is the best way to guarantee they see it.

              • 4. Re: Media Encoder and Quicksync?
                chfilm Community Member

                Bummer,

                 

                that's unfortunate! On the other hand at least I won't have to suffer from speed degredation on my new mac pro without quicksync on board when it finally arrives one day in the far future

                Still, it makes you wonder, why adobe doesnt support this glorious piece of tech! Quicktime x just cuts through h264 encodings in absolutely NO time!

                • 5. Re: Media Encoder and Quicksync?
                  thnord Adobe Employee

                  We often plan our features months in advance and we work from a backlog of items we have accumulated from various sources (the wish form being one of them). It can take a lot of time to bring some features to our users which is 1) why the Creative Cloud is nice because we don't have to wait a full year before unveiling new features and 2) why that wish form is so important.

                  • 6. Re: Media Encoder and Quicksync?
                    chfilm Community Member

                    Well, I made a wish via the form.

                     

                    I believe optimizing the adobe video software (premiere, afx, ame) for hardware is one of the biggest and most neccessary tasks at hand.

                    See this video:

                    https://vimeo.com/69563518

                     

                    Obviously Borella is already in touch with you guys + I remember that blog post from someone of the after effects staff about just optimizing for speed.

                    It's just frustrating that those tools we pay 50$ a month for don't do what some apple tool that comes for free does.

                    Keep it up, I'm actually a fan of the CC model. 

                     

                    Oh yea and this blog post:

                     

                    http://www.thepromacblog.com/speed-gains-from-optimized-software/

                     

                    • Imagine getting a 40% speed boost without buying a single piece of new hardware.
                    • Imagine getting a 40% speed boost without paying to upgrade your software. Imagine getting a 40% speed boost without being charged a subscription fee every month.
                    • Imagine getting a 40% speed boost PERIOD."  and  "Adobe’s task of optimizing their aging code keeps getting bigger and bigger with every new version.

                     

                    I’m still holding onto the idea that Adobe has a team of programmers dual-coding every new feature and at some point they are going to pull an announcement that is similar to the one that Steve Jobs made when he revealed that OSX had been simultaneously programmed to run on Intel processors. 

                     

                    I can’t imagine Adobe is not feeling the groundswell of rising backlash from the user base at this point. People can tell when a company is milking a product for all its worth.  I have to believe (hope) that the Adobe corporate execs have finally made the decision to spend the money to get the codebase current.  We all remember the debacle that Quark brought on themselves. Case studies exist so corporate execs can avoid the pitfalls made by their peers.  They are ignored at your own peril.

                     

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