9 Replies Latest reply: Feb 15, 2014 8:59 AM by Stan Jones RSS

    Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?

    benlgad

      Greetings folks,

       

      I'm trying to make a SD DVD from 1080p footage. I used Apple's Compressor to make 720x480 m2v and ac3 files for a few short clips I am putting on the DVD.

       

      I'd like to use a Button transition when I click to view a certain clip (a 3 second video) that plays before the main clip.

       

      However, since Encore doesn't allow you to use two separate files (an audio and a video file) for a Button transition, I've tried simply importing a high quality 1920x1080 video file into encore from AME.

       

      The problem is that the Button transition video has black bars on the side, and I've tried my hardest to figure out why it is doing this. I've even tried exporting from AME at 720x480, and Encore persists in placing these black bars on the side.

       

      If I export a ac3 and m2v from Compressor (or a wav with AME) I can only use the audio or the video for the Button transition. I want both.

       

      Does anyone have a solution to this problem? I'd like all my videos, including my Button transitions, to fill the screen.

        • 1. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
          Stan Jones MVP

          I thought the transition transcode settings would be overriden by the default like the motion in a motion menu. But it looks like this will work:

           

          I assume you are getting this kind of narrow bars on the sides:

           

          PR Scale to Fit w narrow pillarbox.PNG

           

          This is the slight misfit between HD and SD wide.

           

          You need to apply "scale to fill." You are, of course, better off to size these before you bring into Encore, but I don't know compressor.

           

          In Encore, set the transcode setting for the transition to a custom setting where you apply "scale to fill" in the crop settings.

           

          If that doesn't make sense, ask for more info.

          • 2. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
            benlgad Community Member

            Hi Stan,

             

            Thank you for your reply, I'll explain more in depth what my issue is.

             

            I used Compressor for the DVD files because I'm more familiar with it.

             

            However, since a Button Transition only allows you to select one file, I exported a high quality Quicktime file 1920x1080 and imported that into Encore with the assumption it would transcode during the burning process.

             

            I exported this file from Adobe Media Encoder from a timeline directly from Premiere, and tried a number of combinations. I tried selecting "scale to fill" or "stretch to fill" and even exported at 720x480 (the supposed dimensions of the DVD in Encore) but this generated a "wrong pixel aspect ratio" error.

             

            I couldn't do "Transcode Now" on the file because apparently the "asset was not in use" even though it was serving as a transition.

             

             

            Is there a way to apply "scale to fill" in Encore? Is it something you do in the transcode settings for the project?

            • 3. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
              Stan Jones MVP

              exported at 720x480 (the supposed dimensions of the DVD in Encore) but this generated a "wrong pixel aspect ratio" error.

              Export as MPEG2-DVD with the NTSC Widescreen High Quality, make sure the pixel aspect ratio is set to Widescreen, apply the "scale to fill" in the output tab of the view area to the left. Change the multiplexor to "DVD" so the get the mpg file needed for a transition. Sorry; don't know what to say about field order based on your material.

               

              This is CS6:

               

              PR Scale to Fill Export.PNG

              • 4. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
                Stan Jones MVP

                Sorry; a little pressed for time...

                 

                I couldn't do "Transcode Now" on the file because apparently the "asset was not in use" even though it was serving as a transition.

                Don't know why, but I had no problem with this.

                 

                Is there a way to apply "scale to fill" in Encore? Is it something you do in the transcode settings for the project?

                You must use the "edit quality presets," apply the scale to fill there, save as a custom preset, then remember to apply that to the asset you want it for.

                 

                You cannot do this with the "automatic" setting.

                • 5. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
                  benlgad Community Member

                  Thank you Stan for your informative replies! I'll try some of these techniques and post my results. Still learning Encore's interface and facets.

                  • 6. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
                    benlgad Community Member

                    Stan, you are the man! Those MPEG settings you posted seemed to have solved my problem.

                    • 7. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
                      Stan Jones MVP

                      Excellent!

                      • 8. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
                        neil wilkes MVP

                        From CS4 onwards, Adobe changed the size from 720x480 to 720x486.

                        See here for a detailed explanation of this

                        • 9. Re: Aspect Ratio Messed Up? Black Bars?
                          Stan Jones MVP

                          The pixel size didn't change, but the par did. That is a good link for an explanation.