2 Replies Latest reply on Feb 13, 2014 3:11 AM by adobefishman

    After Effects alphabetical order is a bit wonky

    adobefishman Level 1

      If I create comps that are numbered:

      001

      002

      003

      004

       

      No problem.

      But AE seems to insist on sorting my comps this way if I modify the names.

      001

      002

      003

      004

      001a

       

      or...

       

      001

      002

      003

      004

      001-alt

       

       

      In any other app or in my Finder this is not the case.

      Other apps or the Finder display the list as follows:

      001

      001a

      002

      003

      004

       

      or...

       

      001

      001-alt

      002

      003

      004

       

       

       

      Kind of drives me crazy as I usually modify my alternate sequences with an extra alpha character (1001a,001b,001c...). I've been doing it this way for decades. The only app that gives me grief is AE. Makes no sense...no sense I can see!

       

       

        • 1. Re: After Effects alphabetical order is a bit wonky
          Mylenium Most Valuable Participant

          It makes sense in that AE first sorts by numbers, no matter what. AE doesn't care for human-readable ordering, but you are right, it would probably be a sensible option. In any case, your system could probably be easily fixed by switching to an a,b,c naming pattern. I had an article on that on my deceased error code database. Problem with your approach is that it is always going to end up confusing because you may actually at one point introduce dates, version numbers or other numerals in teh file/ folder names themselves and if you accidentally forget a space or underscore, it could completely jumble up your ordering no matter whether AE were smarter about it...

           

          Mylenium

          • 2. Re: After Effects alphabetical order is a bit wonky
            adobefishman Level 1

            Appreciate what you are saying.

            But, as I said, I've been using my system for decades without it confusing me.

            So no worries there.

             

            And introducing spaces or dates in my system should affect it alpha-numerically just like I would expect in other apps

            But in AE it does not.

            001

            002

            003

            004

            001-alternate

             

            If I had a comp with a wild set of numbers.

            i.e. 7645231

            and f I added a letter onto the end it shouldn't send it shooting to the bottom of a list.

            But it does.

             

            But my system for organizing isn’t the fundamental issue.

            The sorting order seems like a grave error in alpha-numeric ordering.

            The equivalent in sorting in my system is:

            AAA

            AAA1

            BBB

            CCC

            DDD

            AE has no problem.

             

            But if Adobe sorted like this:

            AAA

            BBB

            CCC

            DDD

            AAA1

            Wouldn’t that seem odd?

             

            And if Adobe were consistent, I’d be less surprised.

            While Encore sorts like After Effects,

            Photoshop, Audition and Media Encoder sort the way I would expect they should.

             

            Perhaps most importantly it isn’t even consistent within AE itself. If I have numbered files that have extensions they sort as I would expect, but numbered Compositions do not (!). What is up with that!?!?

             

            The fact that numbers don’t sort in numeric-alpha order seems…  well…  just... wrong.

             

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