4 Replies Latest reply on Feb 13, 2014 7:12 AM by the_wine_snob

    Help getting AVI files into PE12

    EHogger

      I have AVI videos from some cheap Hitachi HD cameras which won't load in PE12. The files load as just audio, but play back fine on the computer.

       

       

      I've read the various threads on similar issues but haven't found a good work around yet.

       

       

      GSpot shows the codec as H.264/MPEG-4 AVC.

       

      I have tried using FFMpeg to rewrap the files as mp4 as shown in this thread: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/854115 , but I just get an unsupported codec error when I import the mp4s.

       

      I've found that installing k-lite codec pack lets the video play, but the playback goes jerky after a few seconds.

       

      I copied the reports from GSpot and MediaInfo. I really want to find a way to get these working without doing full conversions of all the files each time, since this has damaged the quality in the past. If conversion is the only option, can anyone suggest exactly how to convert these files without losing any quality?

       

      Many thanks to anyone who can help.

       

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      Count of audio streams                   : 1

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      Video_Format_WithHint_List               : AVC

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      Audio_Format_List                        : ADPCM

      Audio_Format_WithHint_List               : ADPCM (Intel)

      Audio codecs                             : ADPCM

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      Folder name                              : \\marge\Users\Sixth Form\Upper\April.Gunn\My Documents\My Videos

      File name                                : 026

      File extension                           : AVI

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      Format                                   : AVI

      Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave

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      Interleaved                              : Yes

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      Codec                                    : AVI

      Codec/Info                               : Audio Video Interleave

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      File size                                : 15 MiB

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      File size                                : 15.1 MiB

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      Duration                                 : 11s 712ms

      Duration                                 : 11s 712ms

      Duration                                 : 11s 712ms

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      Overall bit rate                         : 10.8 Mbps

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      Stream size                              : 36.9 KiB (0%)

      Stream size                              : 37 KiB

      Stream size                              : 37 KiB

      Stream size                              : 36.9 KiB

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      Stream size                              : 36.9 KiB (0%)

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      Recorded date                            : 2004-03-04

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      File last modification date (local)      : 2004-03-04 20:19:40.000

      Writing library                          : AMBA

      Writing library                          : AMBA

      ICRT                                     : 20:19:39

       

       

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      ID                                       : 0

      ID                                       : 0

      Format                                   : AVC

      Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec

      Format/Url                               : http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html

      Commercial name                          : AVC

      Format profile                           : Main@L4.0

      Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames

      Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

      Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes

      Format settings, ReFrames                : 4

      Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames

      Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=4

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      Codec                                    : AVC

      Codec/Family                             : AVC

      Codec/Info                               : Intel H.264

      Codec/CC                                 : H264

      Codec profile                            : Main@L4.0

      Codec settings                           : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames

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      Color space                              : YUV

      Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0

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      Bit depth                                : 8 bits

      Scan type                                : Progressive

      Scan type                                : Progressive

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      Kind of stream                           : Audio

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      ID                                       : 1

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        • 1. Re: Help getting AVI files into PE12
          Steve Grisetti Adobe Community Professional

          You're not going to be able to use an MP4 codec AVI in Premiere Elements 12, and your convertor may not be converting it to a usable format.

           

          The best solution is to load this video file into Windows Movie Maker Live and then output it from there as a 1920x1080 MP4. THIS MP4 will work in Premiere Elements 12 (if you have the latest version of Quicktime installed).

          • 2. Re: Help getting AVI files into PE12
            nealeh Level 5

            I had that problem with my cheap Hitachi camcorder. Adobe recommended installing FFDshow which, as I recall, worked. I think the reason was that PRE does not have a native DirectShow filter built in.

             

            Cheers,
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            Neale
            Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

             

            If this post or another user's post resolves the original issue, please mark the posts as correct and/or helpful accordingly. This helps other users with similar trouble get answers to their questions quicker. Thanks.

            • 3. Re: Help getting AVI files into PE12
              EHogger Level 1

              That would explain why K-Lite sort of worked. Thanks for the advice. I'll try it

              • 4. Re: Help getting AVI files into PE12
                the_wine_snob Level 9

                EHogger,

                 

                As has been pointed out, the H.264 AVCHD CODEC, inside the AVI wrapper is non-standard, but some camera mfgrs. insist on doing that. The problem is that Premiere (either flavor) is not coded to look for H.264 inside an AVI. While AVI can contain a lot of different CODEC's, having H.264 inside is not what most programs expect.

                 

                Hope that Neale's suggetion works for you.

                 

                As far as editing ANY H.264 material, the main apect of a computer, that will come into play is the CPU. An underpowered computer will have issues playing it smoothly, as it takes a lot of CPU cycles to work with that material, under good circumstances. In the provided information, I did not see the specs. of your computer, but if the CPU is less than a very fast i5, playback performance may weill suffer.

                 

                Good luck,

                 

                Hunt