11 Replies Latest reply on Feb 22, 2014 12:18 PM by robertcreates

    Premiere Elements for commercial use

    robertcreates

      Can I use Premiere Elements 12 for commercial use , like videos I make for training modules that I sell?

       

      I looked in the EULA and buried in section 16.14 and 16.15 is reference to non-commercial use due to encoder patents.  But nowhere is a straight forward yes or no for commercial use.

       

      Thanks for anyone that knows about this

        • 1. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
          the_wine_snob Level 9

          Welcome to the forum.

           

          Absolutely!

           

          If PrE serves all of your needs, there are no limitations on its use. Many users employ it for their various commercial purposes, from teachers to realtors, to those doing independent productions.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

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          • 2. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
            A.T. Romano Level 7

            robertcreates

             

            My major focus would be the rights issues related to source media other than that which is supplied by the program itself.

             

            ATR

            • 3. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
              robertcreates Level 1

              Thank you Bill Hunt

               

              I also heard the same thing from the Adobe sales department via phone after I posted my question here.  I'm starting a video marketing coaching and production buisness and want to standardize on one software that I can use to teach my clients for them to make their own videos.  Plus, what I will be using for all my work.  This is definitely the one and glad it is cross platform for both PC and Mac.

               

              Thank you for the welcome to the forum.  I appreciate the community aspect

               

              Robert

              • 4. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
                nealeh Level 5

                robertcreates wrote:

                 

                This is definitely the one and glad it is cross platform for both PC and Mac.

                 

                Be aware though that projects created in Mac or Windows are incompatible with the other platform - http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-elements/release-note/readme-premiere-elements.html#main-p ars_header_8.

                 

                Cheers,
                --
                Neale
                Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

                 

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                • 5. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
                  the_wine_snob Level 9

                  You are most welcome.

                   

                  Going way back, Adobe once had a restriction on material produced with the academic versions (like Student & Teacher editions) of some of its programs. I do not recall the exact timing, but would say that they relaxed that restriction about 10 years ago.

                   

                  Also, as Neale points out, the PrE Projects are not X-platform, but if one considers the Mac and the PC, they can output files (from the PrE Project) that ARE X-platform, for delivery. I am not exactly sure how you are referring to X-platform, but if the intent is to edit a Project between a Mac and a PC, then Neale's caveat will be very important. Though the Project file (PREL) looks the same (basically an XML database file), they are significantly different, that a PREL from a Mac, will not Open on a PC. For delivery of a finished AV file (your instructional video, in this case), if one selects say AVCHD (H.264 CODEC) for the output, that file will be viewable on both a Mac and a PC, so long as each computer has a viable version of the H.264 CODEC installed, and most will, or the user can add it. It's the same with most MOV files - so long as the PC has Apple's QuickTime Player installed. When you get to the point of delivery, do not hesitate to stop back, if you need a bit more input from the forum. Some of us have both a Mac and a PC (Steve Grisetti, for instance), but many more are tasked with X-platform delivery quite often.

                   

                  Good luck, and happy editing,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
                    robertcreates Level 1

                    Thanks, Hunt and Neale

                     

                    I guess you go by Hunt?  I sure am amazed at the collaboration in this forum.

                     

                    My use of the term cross platform was pointed at the fact that PrE is availalble for both Mac and PC, such that I can learn only one software and then train my clients (who will be making their own marketing videos) with some simple screen capture tutorials that will work no matter which platform they use.  (It's mostly video blog material at this point.)   I realize there is a lot of great training material already available, but I want to create "cookbook" simple steps, just what they need to know, training materials.  I used to be a professor at Oregon Institute of Technology and have made a lot of teaching videos.

                     

                    Good to know I can't transfer work in progress between platforms, but that really won't be necessary for what will be happening.  Actually, if I had to share the workflow with a client I could do it since I have both Mac and PC computers.  But really not a big production deal anyway.

                     

                    I used Premiere Pro CS4 quite a bit during it's era and still have it, but I wanted an inexpensive solution for the clients I will soon have in my new video marketing coaching buisness.

                     

                    What PrE 12 can do is really amazing for the price.  wow

                     

                    Thanks again,

                     

                    Robert

                    • 7. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
                      nealeh Level 5

                      robertcreates wrote:

                       

                      train my clients (who will be making their own marketing videos) with some simple screen capture tutorials that will work no matter which platform they use.

                       

                      You should probably do those tutorials in the Mac version then as there are a batch of video and audio effects, and transitions, that are ONLY in the Windows version. Then maybe create some supplemental tutorials for Windows only features.

                       

                      Details at What is omitted in the Mac version of Premiere Elements 12?

                       

                      Also note that, in the Organizer, 'Watched Folders' is a Windows only feature.

                       

                      Cheers,
                      --
                      Neale
                      Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

                       

                      If this post or another user's post resolves the original issue, please mark the posts as correct and/or helpful accordingly. This helps other users with similar trouble get answers to their questions quicker. Thanks.

                      • 8. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
                        the_wine_snob Level 9

                        Robert,

                         

                        Thank you for the clarification.

                         

                        Neale makes a very good point about the differences between the Mac and PC versions of PrE. The GUI is pretty much the same, BUT his link to "what's missing," can be very important. We see a fair share of Mac users, who see references to some Effects (especially the Keying Effects) in a PC tutorial, and cannot find them in the Mac version. I agree with Neale on doing the tutorials on a Mac, as that segment of the market has been a bit underserved historically.

                         

                        Good luck with your project - sounds interesting.

                         

                        Hunt

                        • 9. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
                          robertcreates Level 1

                          Thanks for the very valuable information.  I could have gotten blindsided on the training videos if I didn't know this.  I have just been using the trial PC version to make my software decision over the past few days, and today going to BestBuy to get the paid version discs.

                           

                          I take note of the link Neale sent (thanks Neale) and see the mac version does not do chroma keying. Crap, it was not part of the mainstream use to start with but would be nice.  Is there any workaround for doing greenscreen type work on the mac?

                           

                          Thanks for all the feedback.  This forum is worth the cost of the program by itself.  Much appreciated.

                           

                          Robert

                          • 10. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
                            A.T. Romano Level 7

                            Robert

                             

                            You wrote:

                            Is there any workaround for doing greenscreen type work on the mac?

                             

                            Some people would steer you to the Videomerge Effect for that. Videomerge was never been one of my favorites on Windows - never had a Mac. I prefer the Chroma Key Effect in my Windows computer environment. But, Premiere Elements Mac does not have Chroma Key.

                             

                            Bottom line: please take a look at the Difference Matte for your Premiere Elements Mac greenscreen type work and see if the following works for you.

                             

                            http://www.atr935.blogspot.com/2013/05/pe11-difference-matte-as-substitute-for.html

                             

                            Thanks.

                             

                            ATR

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                            • 11. Re: Premiere Elements for commercial use
                              robertcreates Level 1

                              Thanks ATR,

                               

                              I'll look into trying this once I get up and running on the mac I have.  It's not really a deal breaker for me moving ahead with PrE for my business.  If my clients get to the point where they want/need to do greenscreen on the mac I would probably intoduce a different software for that need,  A lot of the initial work I want to help people video market with can be done without chromakey.

                               

                              Thanks for this forum,

                               

                              Robert