5 Replies Latest reply on Feb 25, 2014 8:49 AM by richardplondon

    Help/Advice on organizing photos "developed" in lightroom




      Bit of a new comer to light room. Im currently looking for ways of organizing different edits with in light room.


      The way I understand light room is that the edits you make to each photo is saved to a database, keeping the original file intact but displaying the altered results from within light room and only moving them to the original file when it is exported.


      I am currently trying ways of organizing my photo library using collection, for example I have a number of collections Eg "To Print", "Printed", "Favourites" etc. I am wondering if there is a way to make it that the edits to the photos made within one collection are not applied to that photo everywhere in light room.


      Say for example in the case of the "To Print" Collection. A number of the photos have to be cropped or edited slightly to be more suitable for printing, but I dont want these to display the cropped version if they are also in the Favourites collection. So you would only see the cropped version from within the "to print" collection


      I figure the easiest way to do this would be to have copies of the photos, or simply just revert to original dimensions when the photos are moved to the "printed" collection, however I thought due to the way light room manages edits there may be an inbuilt setting.


      Also I have not played with the print function a great deal so perhaps the solution is in that for the cropping side of things.


      Any one more experienced in Lightroom have any suggestions as to the best approach?

        • 1. Re: Help/Advice on organizing photos "developed" in lightroom
          areohbee Level 6

          If you want different settings applied to the same photo, for different purposes (e.g. printing), just make a virtual copy (e.g. Ctrl-', or Cmd-' on Mac).

          • 2. Re: Help/Advice on organizing photos "developed" in lightroom
            dj_paige Level 10

            If you want a collection for certain photos, and that collection should contain virtual copies that you can edit and crop differently than some other version of the same photo, then select all the desired photos, then "Create Collection" and check "Include selected photos" and also check "Make new virtual copies"

            • 3. Re: Help/Advice on organizing photos "developed" in lightroom
              richardplondon Level 4

              Virtual copy is a very good answer for this, but there are some details to consider.


              If you have manually added an image to a Collection, and then you create a virtual copy of that for a specific purpose working from inside that Collection - then that new image version will automatically inherit membership of that Collection, and appear alongside the first one there.


              However if you create your virtual copy working from a different Collection or else from a folder based view then the virtual copy will not inherit that membership in the first mentioned Collection automatically.


              If you don't want such a virtual copy to be in a standard Collection where it HAS appeared, you can remove / delete it from that collection without affecting its appearances elsewhere.


              If you have made a Smart Collection, then where such a virtual copy meets the inclusion criteria (as it usually will, by default), then it will appear there alongside its original.


              One may want to add a distinctive keyword, colour flag or whatever, or more fundamentally make use of the Virtual Copy status of an image version, in order to discriminate how it appears in Smart Collections, or to have a view filter which does that. However, there are reasons why one might want to see some Virtual Copies, but not others.


              One easy and "effort free" way to discriminate only virtual copies made for the specific purpose of printing, is to create them from within the Soft Proofing mode. If you take a given image and want to fine-tune it / recrop it, go into Soft Proof selecting the output profile that is relevant. The moment you then do anything to that in Develop, you are prompted to create a "proofing (virtual) copy" which will receive those tweaks, separate from the starting version.


              All VCs have a Copy Name as well as referring to a filename. A "proofing copy" automatically gets the output profile name assigned as its Copy name. This can then be used as a means of selectively finding, filtering, including or excluding... just those image versions that have been specifically tweaked under that particular profile - whether specific to a given printer and paper / specific to a given previewed colourspace.



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              • 4. Re: Help/Advice on organizing photos "developed" in lightroom
                99jon Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                Yes use VC’s for your different modifications. Also consider organizing your collections in Collection Sets (see image below)


                Collection sets are like a folder of collections which can be expanded or contracted as needed.



                • 5. Re: Help/Advice on organizing photos "developed" in lightroom
                  richardplondon Level 4

                  99jon wrote:


                  Yes use VC’s for your different modifications. Also consider organizing your collections in Collection Sets (see image below)


                  It is also possible to make and name "filters" which in some way narrow down the full contents of whatever Collection, Smart Collection or Folder you may be currently looking at.


                  You can have some named filter presets to select for images that have a certain keyword or other atribute to express their working status (or whatever). You don't then need each Collection to have its own subcollections for those purposes... once you can achieve the same effect on-the-fly, at will, wherever.


                  Plus when you change anything - you haven't then got a whole lot of administrative catching-up to do..


                  Similar techniques can be achieved with Smart (sub) Collections which refer to collection membership - but again, that may result in a big long list since separate workflow SCs will still be needed, duplicated, per Collection. Filtering is (by contrast) completely "ad-hoc" and context neutral.