7 Replies Latest reply: Mar 9, 2014 11:56 PM by ALLENT RSS

    Speedgrade smoothing skin / complexion

    ALLENT Community Member

      Has anyone found a way to smooth out skin (and still leave in clarity in the eyes and features), like the POP slider does in Colorista 2???  I have tried gaussian blur, but it doesn't seem to work near as well (and is there anyway to see the keyer) in guassian blue when picking a color range (this seems so fundamental I am sure I am just not doing it correctly... becuase surely they wouldn't have left that ability out????

       

      Bottom line: is how to you smooth out skin/complexion with speedgrade???

        • 1. Re: Speedgrade smoothing skin / complexion
          BernardDigital Community Member

          I would use AfterEffects for skin retouching... You can really get amazing results because its basically photoshop for video...

           

          But as were on stuff left out of SpeedGade...

           

          Do you know why the video in the GUI monitor becomes disabled when you turn on duel monitoring or external monitoring? This is crazy to me... I use a video card to do my external monitoring so there is no way for me to move my mouse over to the external monitor... So if I try to make a mask or anyting I can't get to the widget controls to adjust and move the mask around...

           

          I am just so perplexed why they would not leave the video feed on the GUI monitor enabled and also enable the external monitor... I mean Premiere Pro has no problem outputing mulitple monitor feeds... 

           

          Do you have a problem with this as well or have come accross this yet?

          • 2. Re: Speedgrade smoothing skin / complexion
            ALLENT Community Member

            I have not tried running my 2nd monitor yet in SG (I am just learning it at the moment), but if you can't use a duel monitor.... that is CRAZY!!  90% of the work I do is duel monitor.  WOW, I may have to rethink my color grading (can you say Davinci Resolve)!!  They have to get this stuff working correctly, or it is useless for REAL WORK!

            • 3. Re: Speedgrade smoothing skin / complexion
              BernardDigital Community Member

              Yea its so weird... I have a sesson coming up next week so I was testing stuff out and getting ready... And am finding speedgrade is not ready yet...

               

              But unless somone says different or knows what I am doing wrong...

               

              It will seriously be like ohhhh you want a power window there... Hold on let me disable external monitoring... Then place the window (god forbid you have move it a lil after)... Then re-enable external montoring and then make the correction... And I will have to do this for everyshot...

              • 4. Re: Speedgrade smoothing skin / complexion
                JSS1138 CommunityMVP

                Bottom line: is how to you smooth out skin/complexion with speedgrade???

                 

                You don't.

                 

                http://www.redgiant.com/products/all/cosmo/

                • 5. Re: Speedgrade smoothing skin / complexion
                  ALLENT Community Member

                  Wow does the REDGIANT stuff work well.... between that and the "pop" slider in Colorista II, my clients are looking "GOOD"!  But, why isn't something like this available in a high-end color grading software system like SG????????  I don't want to do all my Color work in PP, it is actually easier to use REDGIANT stuff in AE (i.e. preview outline for masking) ...  but bottom line is I really don't want to involve 3 software programs to do one task like smoothing out complexion!  COME ON ADOBE.... this should be a no-brainer in a great program like SG... or atleast open it up to 3rd party software (if a product is not in development for this MUCH needed tool)!

                  • 6. Re: Speedgrade smoothing skin / complexion
                    R Neil Haugen Community Member

                    Hey the demo of "cosmo" looks interesting ... it works as well as the demo? That would be nice ...

                     

                    The one RedGiant product I've used so far is the free Colorista LutBuddy ... in Ae. It's an awesome little tool for both applying LUT's within Ae and also ... for creating LUT's ... make something you like, and it will read an area of the image and make a LUT from it ... usable in anything from Ae through PrPro to Sg ... cool.

                     

                    And I'm a total dweeb otherwise in Ae still ... so ... interested in hearing more about cosmo ...

                    • 7. Re: Speedgrade smoothing skin / complexion
                      ALLENT Community Member

                      RED GIANT's Cosmo is just sick.  It identifies the skin tone automatically, and sticks the"keyer" to skin like glue, then gives you a ton of slider options to tweak as much (or as little) as you want to apply.... if you want to crank it up you can easily take 20 years off your actors.  What 40 year old doesn't want to look 20!!!  Then again if you want a very subtle smooth look, that is easy to get too.  Red Giant is really doing well in this area.  I can't believe SpeedGrade is leaving us hanging (with just the gaussian blur option)... it works OK, but doesn't leave any of the important features very clear (i.e. eyes, lips, teeth) it kind of blurs everything.  Cosmo does NOT, it retains amazing detail in the eyes, etc...  I'll say it again, Adobe needs to open up Speed Grade to 3rd party plugins like RED GIANT.  I don't understand why they don't, it is available in PP and AE... Go figure... maybe it is just a matter of time.